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9900KF direct die cooling

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My 9900KF should be here tomorrow and I was wondering with direct die cooling, how much difference will using Conductonaut vs Kryonaut make (or similar)?

 

I was going to use either nail varnish or liquid electrical tape to cover up the vulnerable areas on the top of the cpu and use Conductonaut

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Are you aware that the i9 9900KF IHS is soldered?

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2 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

Are you aware that the i9 9900KF IHS is soldered?

It's still rather easy to delid after some heating-up. Like, run it at 90° C in stress-test for 30 minutes beforehand.

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1 minute ago, Juular said:

It's still rather easy to delid after some heating-up.

Yep, I was just going to heat it up with my soldering iron in my delidding tool

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Does it worth it or not depends on your intentions, if you want to do some extreme-ish OC and have appropriate cooling system then go for it, there are some difference. If you will just casually game on it then just OC it to 5GHz, thermals will be okay in gaming even with some mid-range air cooler.

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Just now, remus243 said:

Yep, I was just going to heat it up with my soldering iron in my delidding tool

Oh, that's bad idea, you can damage the IHS, at most you can use heat gun but preheating it with it's own heat output will do just fine and it's safer.

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It's more really just for hobby/project purposes, I was just wondering how much difference the paste (liquid metal vs traditional) makes in direct die with a der8auer OC-Frame

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1 minute ago, remus243 said:

It's more really just for hobby/project purposes, I was just wondering how much difference the paste (liquid metal vs traditional) makes in direct die with a der8auer OC-Frame

I don't want to search for sources, there are plenty i'm sure but IIRC that's just about 5°C maybe and it depends on the load and cooling system of course.

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I've got a d5 pump, 2x 360mm radiators and a xspc raystorm block ready to fit. Im also waiting on RDNA2 release, hopefully at CES in Jan, before I upgrade or buy a waterblock for my current 1080ti.

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1 minute ago, remus243 said:

I've got a d5 pump, 2x 360mm radiators and a xspc raystorm block ready to fit. Im also waiting on RDNA2 release, hopefully at CES in Jan, before I upgrade or buy a waterblock for my current 1080ti.

Yep, that should do it lol. Okay, do it, delid it and OC the shit out of it, just don't break it :)

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On 12/13/2019 at 8:55 AM, remus243 said:

Hi,

 

My 9900KF should be here tomorrow and I was wondering with direct die cooling, how much difference will using Conductonaut vs Kryonaut make (or similar)?

 

I was going to use either nail varnish or liquid electrical tape to cover up the vulnerable areas on the top of the cpu and use Conductonaut

I didn't check on my 9900k last year, nor will I be using normal paste on the 9900ks this year but IIRC the difference between paste and liquid metal is usually double digit temps - liquid metal is much much more conductive than Kryonaut.

Also - if you're going to the trouble of delidding a soldered CPU for direct die, doesn't make sense to me to skimp on the TIM since you're going for lowest possible temps in the first place...

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On 12/13/2019 at 4:22 PM, Juular said:

Yep, that should do it lol. Okay, do it, delid it and OC the shit out of it, just don't break it :)

I'll test to see if it's a good cpu first though ;)

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