Looking to build 3950x system

[jojothejoker]

I'm looking to build a 3950x work station.

This machine will mainly be used to host virtual machines. I saw that Dell has some fancy Alienware with 3950x. But I think I can build something for much cheaper. I can get by with a 1030GT. I'm thinking 32gb ram. I tried using PC parts picker but I had a hard time knowing if everything would work together.

 

Budget is sub 3k Canadian.

 

If someone could help me cobble something together or point me to an affordable system builder would be much appreciated. This is for a business environment.

 

Thanks

[Enderman]

https://pcpartpicker.com/

[Eigenvektor]

6 minutes ago, jojothejoker said:

I tried using PC parts picker but I had a hard time knowing if everything would work together.

That's the main point for using it, it should only show compatible parts or warn you if stuff doesn't work together, with the possible exception of some physical limitations (see bottom of their System Builder page)

[Juular]

9 minutes ago, jojothejoker said:

I tried using PC parts picker but I had a hard time knowing if everything would work together.

6 minutes ago, Enderman said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/

Very helpful lol.

 

I'll make one for you OP.

Any preferences on storage (how much, HDD\SSD), and wireless network ? Also case choice, silent \ good airflow \ gaming looking \ doesn't matter.

[Juular]

Holy cow, 1.8k CAD for 3950X ? That's more than twice the price for 3900X, are you sure you want 3950X specifically ?

[Enderman]

5 minutes ago, Juular said:

Very helpful lol.

I mean it literallly tells you if things work together or not, how much more simple can it be...

[Juular]

1 minute ago, Enderman said:

I mean it literallly tells you if things work together or not, how much more simple can it be...

Not that simple when you don't know the differences between all these parts and whether they matter.

[Enderman]

1 minute ago, Juular said:

Not that simple when you don't know the differences between all these parts and whether they matter.

In that case he should not be building a computer and be watching youtube videos or using google instead cause he's got a lot to learn about computers........

There is plenty of information and tutorials on the internet about every component.

He's literally on the linus tech tips forum, go watch some linus tech tip videos for tips about tech 

[Juular]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($729.99 @ Newegg Canada)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($107.55 @ Mike's Computer Shop)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($184.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($159.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN500 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($74.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN500 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($74.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Red 2 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($89.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Red 2 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($89.99 @ Canada Computers)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GT 1030 2 GB Video Card  (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($119.99 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ PC-Canada)
Case Fan: be quiet! BL087 49.8 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($24.90 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace)
Case Fan: be quiet! BL087 49.8 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($24.90 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace)
Case Fan: be quiet! BL087 49.8 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($24.90 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace)
Total: $1807.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-06 14:58 EST-0500

[jojothejoker]

4 minutes ago, Juular said:

Very helpful lol.

 

I'll make one for you OP.

Any preferences on storage (how much, HDD\SSD), and wireless network ? Also case choice, silent \ good airflow \ gaming looking \ doesn't matter.

Thanks @Juular,

Well the canadian supply of 3950x is low at the moment but hoping it will be better after the holidays. You can slap a 3900x for now thought and when comes purchase time ill change it for 3950x depending on pricing. 500gb to 1tb ssd , 2 tb of storage, most of it is on the NAS anyways, just need my vhds on the ssd. For aesthetics I don't give any care this is going in the server room, constant 20C in there anyways so yep. Looking for the most horsepower for the buck. Thanks

 

[Juular]

2 minutes ago, Enderman said:

In that case he should not be building a computer and be watching youtube videos or using google instead cause he's got a lot to learn about computers........

Or they can just go to some forum like LTT and ask for help, oh, wait ...

[jojothejoker]

1 minute ago, Juular said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($729.99 @ Newegg Canada)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($107.55 @ Mike's Computer Shop)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($184.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($159.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN500 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($74.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN500 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($74.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Red 2 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($89.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Red 2 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($89.99 @ Canada Computers)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GT 1030 2 GB Video Card  (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($119.99 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ PC-Canada)
Case Fan: be quiet! BL087 49.8 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($24.90 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace)
Case Fan: be quiet! BL087 49.8 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($24.90 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace)
Case Fan: be quiet! BL087 49.8 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($24.90 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace)
Total: $1807.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-06 14:58 EST-0500

Awesome, but I thought the 3900x and 3950x needed watercooling AIO style?

[Juular]

1 minute ago, jojothejoker said:

Awesome, but I thought the 3900x and 3950x needed watercooling AIO style?

For VMs ? I don't think so but you can slap EVGA CLC 280 \ 360 in there, sure. Drop two additional case fans then too.

[Enderman]

1 minute ago, Juular said:

Or they can just go to some forum like LTT and ask for help, oh, wait ...

Having someone tell you what components to buy is not the same as learning yourself about what you literally just said, "the differences between all these parts and whether they matter"

 

So yeah, if you can't tell the difference between DDR3 and 4 then you should definitely not be building a computer, there is a lot more to learn.

[Zando_]

2 minutes ago, jojothejoker said:

Awesome, but I thought the 3900x and 3950x needed watercooling AIO style?

NH-D15 is on par with most AIOs. 

1 minute ago, Juular said:

For VMs ? I don't think so but you can slap EVGA CLC 280 \ 360 in there, sure. Drop two additional case fans then too.

^^^ These are really good ones, especially the CLC 280. From the GN review I read the 360 is up to snuff as well. I had the 280mm and 120mm models, they were pretty damn good. 

[Juular]

Just now, Enderman said:

Having someone tell you what components to buy is not the same as learning yourself about what you literally just said, "the differences between all these parts and whether they matter"

 

So yeah, if you can't tell the difference between DDR3 and 4 then you should definitely not be building a computer, there is a lot more to learn.

It's not that simple as knowing a difference between DDR3 and DDR4, that what PCPP will do for you. But to make a good build you need to know which motherboards are good and bad, which cooling is appropriate, which PSUs are good and bad, which SSDs are good and bad, whether all that shit will indeed be compatible with each other, PCPP are wrong sometimes.

[AndrewB121]

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor	$1749.00 @ Amazon Canada
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-U14S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler	$85.95 @ Mike's Computer Shop
Motherboard	ASRock X570 Taichi ATX AM4 Motherboard	$368.95 @ Vuugo
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$230.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$129.35 @ shopRBC
Storage	Western Digital Blue 2 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive	$64.99 @ Canada Computers
Video Card	Asus GeForce GT 1030 2 GB Phoenix Fan OC Video Card	$112.99 @ PC-Canada
Case	Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case	$67.75 @ Vuugo
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$99.99 @ PC-Canada
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$2959.96
	Mail-in rebates	-$50.00
	Total	$2909.96
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-06 15:07 EST-0500

 

[Enderman]

1 minute ago, Juular said:

It's not that simple as knowing a difference between DDR3 and DDR4, that what PCPP will do for you. But to make a good build you need to know which motherboards are good and bad, which cooling is appropriate, which PSUs are good and bad, which SSDs are good and bad, whether all that shit will indeed be compatible with each other, PCPP are wrong sometimes.

Yeah and that's why he should go watch youtube videos and learn something rather than asking for a list of parts.

Because I haven't seen you tell him about any of those things you listed.

[Juular]

3 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Yeah and that's why he should go watch youtube videos and learn something rather than asking for a list of parts.

Because I haven't seen you tell him about any of those things you listed.

Because they didn't ask for that, all they did is to help them to make a build.

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If someone could help me cobble something together

And it's not that simple to teach all that stuff, i just can assure them that these choices are good in my book, other people may think different, there's no universal truth. Watch videos ? Sure, after several hundred of hours you may have all needed information, that'll do yeah.

[Juular]

5 minutes ago, AndrewB121 said:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor	$1749.00 @ Amazon Canada
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-U14S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler	$85.95 @ Mike's Computer Shop
Motherboard	ASRock X570 Taichi ATX AM4 Motherboard	$368.95 @ Vuugo
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$230.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$129.35 @ shopRBC
Storage	Western Digital Blue 2 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive	$64.99 @ Canada Computers
Video Card	Asus GeForce GT 1030 2 GB Phoenix Fan OC Video Card	$112.99 @ PC-Canada
Case	Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case	$67.75 @ Vuugo
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$99.99 @ PC-Canada
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$2959.96
	Mail-in rebates	-$50.00
	Total	$2909.96
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-06 15:07 EST-0500

 

Here you go, @Enderman, that's what i'm talking about.

- Cooler's too weak.

- Motherboard is too expensive.

- Why RGB RAM ? And 3600MHz ain't gonna change things for VM usecase.

- Crucial SSD are QLC, VERY bad choice for VM.

[jojothejoker]

10 minutes ago, Juular said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($729.99 @ Newegg Canada)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($107.55 @ Mike's Computer Shop)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($184.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($159.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN500 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($74.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN500 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($74.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Red 2 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($89.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Red 2 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($89.99 @ Canada Computers)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GT 1030 2 GB Video Card  (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($119.99 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ PC-Canada)
Case Fan: be quiet! BL087 49.8 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($24.90 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace)
Case Fan: be quiet! BL087 49.8 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($24.90 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace)
Case Fan: be quiet! BL087 49.8 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($24.90 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace)
Total: $1807.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-06 14:58 EST-0500

Pretty much nailed it!

Thanks your awesome much appreciate your help. I'm pretty good with tech usually but when it's for work, it's always best to double check to not endup in trouble!

This is exactly what I was hoping to get and you provided in a stellar way!

[Enderman]

3 minutes ago, Juular said:

Here you go, @Enderman, that's what i'm talking about.

- Cooler's too weak.

- Motherboard is too expensive.

- Why RGB RAM ? And 3600MHz ain't gonna change things for VM usecase.

- Crucial SSD are QLC, VERY bad choice for VM.

Well your build has some weird shit going on too, like two separate nvme drives (why???) and two smaller hard drives istead of one larger one, expensive fans, expensive case, unnecessary wattage PSU...

[AndrewB121]

2 minutes ago, Juular said:

Here you go, @Enderman, that's what i'm talking about.

- Cooler's too weak.

- Motherboard is too expensive.

- Why RGB RAM ? And 3600MHz ain't gonna change things for VM usecase.

- Crucial SSD are QLC, VERY bad choice for VM.

The cooler should be fine if he isn't overclocking. If he is, then I agree the NH-D15 is a better choice. 

The RAM is RGB for no reason other than that was fairly cheap and low latency 3600MHz ram. Could be changed to 3200MHz if wanted.  

The motherboard is expensive tbf, but it's a high quality board with good VRMs, again if not overclocking then he could get a cheaper one. 

Forgot that the SSD is qlc, you're right something like a WD blue or 970evo would be a better choice. 

[Juular]

3 minutes ago, Enderman said:

like two separate nvme drives (why???) and two smaller hard drives istead of one larger one

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This is for a business environment.

RAID1

4 minutes ago, Enderman said:

expensive fans

Expensive fans work longer, it's not that i've choosen them by price, they're actually cheaper than say Noctua fans but equally good at that.

5 minutes ago, Enderman said:

expensive case

Just feel that i'll go along good with that build. And there's not much choice in Canada otherwise.

5 minutes ago, Enderman said:

unnecessary wattage PSU...

It's not about wattage, i've looked for PSUs with good set of protections and quality, that's the cheapest one, there were a couple of marginally cheaper comparable units, i've just thought that paying 10$ more for this one are worth it.

[Mister Woof]

28 minutes ago, Enderman said:

In that case he should not be building a computer and be watching youtube videos or using google instead cause he's got a lot to learn about computers........

There is plenty of information and tutorials on the internet about every component.

He's literally on the linus tech tips forum, go watch some linus tech tip videos for tips about tech 

I get what you mean, but.......

 

Techies get a bad reputation for being elitest and scaring off newbies.

 

He is already showing more drive to learn by posting here than just buying the Dell.