Is It Worth Buying Asrock x299e-itx/ac

[CGameDev]

Hey Guys,

Just need an input on this motherboard. I want to build a high end ITX system and i saw this motherboard at my computer store. Is it any good and is it worth buying?

[Fasauceome]

5 minutes ago, CGameDev said:

i saw this motherboard at my computer store. Is it any good and is it worth buying?

How much?

 

It's not usually a great buy since AMD has made x299 CPUs a pretty bad buy, you can probably get a much more powerful Ryzen system for the dollar. Even the 18 core 9980XE is defeated by the 16 core 3950X in every aspect.

[GoldenLag]

4 minutes ago, CGameDev said:

Is it any good and is it worth buying?

not really, 

 

its a cool board, but you dont need to go HEDT to get the performance from HEDT anymore. 

 

AM4 does the trick allready. its more to do with the plattform more than the board as the board is a wonderful feat of engineering. 

[GabrielFerrazTPU]

6 minutes ago, CGameDev said:

Hey Guys,

Just need an input on this motherboard. I want to build a high end ITX system and i saw this motherboard at my computer store. Is it any good and is it worth buying?

Hello.

 

To be honest  i wouldn't recommend buying a LGA 2066 config, if you want a ITX build, just get a ITX X570 or even a ITX X470 board(AM4)

[CGameDev]

3 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

How much?

 

It's not usually a great buy since AMD has made x299 CPUs a pretty bad buy, you can probably get a much more powerful Ryzen system for the dollar. Even the 18 core 9980XE is defeated by the 16 core 3950X in every aspect.

$500CAD

[CGameDev]

2 minutes ago, GabrielLP14 said:

Hello.

 

To be honest  i wouldn't recommend buying a LGA 2066 config, if you want a ITX build, just get a ITX X570 or even a ITX X470 board(AM4)

Ok i will  look into those

 

[GabrielFerrazTPU]

Just now, CGameDev said:

Ok i will  look into those

 

Yes, it has e better cost-benefit then those X299 kits

[CGameDev]

Just now, GabrielLP14 said:

Yes, it has e better cost-benefit then those X299 kits

ASUS ROG STRIX X570-I GAMING mini-ITX, this is a better buy?

[Fasauceome]

5 minutes ago, CGameDev said:

$500CAD

That's a pretty terrible deal. If you were interested in a high power workstation in a small form factor:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor	$674.00 @ shopRBC
Motherboard	Gigabyte X570 I AORUS PRO WIFI Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard	$291.50 @ Vuugo
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$404.00 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$139.99 @ Memory Express
Video Card	Asus GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB Dual EVO Video Card	$528.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop
Case	NZXT H200 Mini ITX Tower Case	$116.11 @ Amazon Canada
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$129.95 @ Mike's Computer Shop
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2284.54
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-18 08:54 EST-0500

Although I don't know your exact needs so this parts list may not be perfect.

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, CGameDev said:

ASUS ROG STRIX X570-I GAMING mini-ITX, this is a better buy?

Also, don't build a PC based on the motherboard, choose the core performance parts like the CPU and graphics card first, then get the motherboard and ram to go with it.

[CGameDev]

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

That's a pretty terrible deal. If you were interested in a high power workstation in a small form factor:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor	$674.00 @ shopRBC
Motherboard	Gigabyte X570 I AORUS PRO WIFI Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard	$291.50 @ Vuugo
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$404.00 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$139.99 @ Memory Express
Video Card	Asus GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB Dual EVO Video Card	$528.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop
Case	NZXT H200 Mini ITX Tower Case	$116.11 @ Amazon Canada
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$129.95 @ Mike's Computer Shop
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2284.54
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-18 08:54 EST-0500

 

Ok, but for the case i am thinking of going with the lian li pc-q37

[CGameDev]

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

Also, don't build a PC based on the motherboard, choose the core performance parts like the CPU and graphics card first, then get the motherboard and ram to go with it.

ok, never thought about it that way.

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, CGameDev said:

Ok, but for the case i am thinking of going with the lian li pc-q37

Then take this power supply instead

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/CQ648d/corsair-power-supply-cp9020105na

[GabrielFerrazTPU]

14 minutes ago, CGameDev said:

ASUS ROG STRIX X570-I GAMING mini-ITX, this is a better buy?

This is an Amazing board it features the TDA 21472 70A mosfet from Infeneon using a 10 phase power design using 4(x2) + 2(Vsoc) using a PWM ASP1405L using capable of handling 8 phases but instead it's using 4(x2)+2.

This board can easily support the 3950X

[CGameDev]

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

Then take this power supply instead

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/CQ648d/corsair-power-supply-cp9020105na

ok, thank you.

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, GabrielLP14 said:

This is an Amazing board it features the TDA 21472 70A mosfet from Infeneon using a 10 phase power design using 4(x 2 with doubler IR3599)

just fyi, 

 

Asus doesnt use doublers. unless Asus did a very wierd exception with that board. which i doubt if i recall correctly. 

2 minutes ago, CGameDev said:

ok, thank you.

would look at the ITX Gigabyte x570i Auros Pro WIfi. 

 

you get a very good VRM for the price and a really good package. no need to get something pricier. and the VRM is more than enough for the 3950x. 

[GabrielFerrazTPU]

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

just fyi, 

 

Asus doesnt use doublers. unless Asus did a very wierd exception with that board. which i doubt if i recall correctly. 

would look at the ITX Gigabyte x570i Auros Pro WIfi. 

 

you get a very good VRM for the price and a really good package. no need to get something pricier. and the VRM is more than enough for the 3950x. 

Oh yeah, they're using those methods where they consider 2 phases as one, discarding the use of doublers right?

 

[GabrielFerrazTPU]

3 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

would look at the ITX Gigabyte x570i Auros Pro WIfi. 

 

you get a very good VRM for the price and a really good package. no need to get something pricier. and the VRM is more than enough for the 3950x. 

This board is also amazing.

This time it features a 6+2 phases(PWM IR35201 in 6+2 mode) using 6 phases for the Vcore(TDA 21742 70A) + 2 phases for the Vsoc(IR 3553 40A)

[CGameDev]

2 minutes ago, GabrielLP14 said:

This board is also amazing.

This time it features a 6+2 phases(PWM IR35201 in 6+2 mode) using 6 phases for the Vcore(TDA 21742 70A) + 2 phases for the Vsoc(IR 3553 40A)

It seems like a nice board and its affordable

[GoldenLag]

4 minutes ago, GabrielLP14 said:

Oh yeah, they're using those methods where they consider 2 phases as one, discarding the use of doublers right?

 

no, they cram 2 powerstages into 1 phase to improve transient response. but use a lot of input filtering to work out the sideeffects. 

 

when looking at board with the same VRM config, it hasnt shown that the transient responce improves overclocking, nor that the lack of phases change anything. its just a different way of doing things. 

 

1 minute ago, CGameDev said:

It seems like a nice board and its affordable

its actually a good value board for x570. even tho its a ITX board

[GabrielFerrazTPU]

Just now, GoldenLag said:

no, they cram 2 powerstages into 1 phase to improve transient response. but use a lot of input filtering to work out the sideeffects. 

 

when looking at board with the same VRM config, it hasnt shown that the transient responce improves overclocking, nor that the lack of phases change anything. its just a different way of doing things. 

Thank you, for the explanation, btw, what are they calling this method?

[GoldenLag]

20 minutes ago, GabrielLP14 said:

Thank you, for the explanation, btw, what are they calling this method?

They havent called it anything.

 

 

Me and the people who worked on the mobo tier list has called it "fat phasing"

 

As its just a fat phase with multiple powerstages

[GabrielFerrazTPU]

1 hour ago, GoldenLag said:

They havent called it anything.

 

 

Me and the people who worked on the mobo tier list has called it "fat phasing"

 

As its just a fat phase with multiple powerstages

LoL