Posted November 15, 2019 I am currently building a new case for a nas that I am looking to build. Overall system will have four ssd's in raid 10 for the OS drives and 18 mechanical drives. Looking for recommendations on cards etc that will support 18 mechanical + 4 ssd drives. mj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 15, 2019 Are you trying for Hardware RAID or Software RAID? Which OS? Guides & Tutorials: PROXMOX - Rebuilding ZFS RAID rpool After Disk Failure Mass Deploying Customized Windows 10/11 Installs Building a GNU/Linux Based Windows Deployment Server GNU/Linux Installer Server: Installation & Configuration How to: Use (i)PXE to Install Windows from a Network Why Memorize IP's When You Can Self-Host DNS Instead? Ventoy - The USB Multi-Boot Utility! Introduction to PXE/iPXE Network Boot Featuring FreeBSD & Ubuntu Server Don't see what you need? Check the Full List or *PM me, if I haven't made it I'll add it to the list. *NOTE: I'll only add it to the list if the request is something I know I can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 15, 2019 Author It's less of a NAS and more of a storage server, even though storage will be its primary function. Was thinking unraid which would allow me to setup certain things in containers but also to setup and run a few VMs if required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 15, 2019 57 minutes ago, Spontaneocus said: It's less of a NAS and more of a storage server, even though storage will be its primary function. Was thinking unraid which would allow me to setup certain things in containers but also to setup and run a few VMs if required. So Software RAID? (Technically UNRAID isn't RAID) I can recommend HBA's such as the LSI 9207-8i or LSI 9201-16i both have been solid for my storage servers. If you have a tight budget and don't really need a SASII link per disk you can look into SAS Expanders. Connect the SSD's directly to the motherboard or HBA then all your spinning drives to the SAS Expander. Performance won't be hurt significantly (or at all) and it'd be a cost saver. Guides & Tutorials: PROXMOX - Rebuilding ZFS RAID rpool After Disk Failure Mass Deploying Customized Windows 10/11 Installs Building a GNU/Linux Based Windows Deployment Server GNU/Linux Installer Server: Installation & Configuration How to: Use (i)PXE to Install Windows from a Network Why Memorize IP's When You Can Self-Host DNS Instead? Ventoy - The USB Multi-Boot Utility! Introduction to PXE/iPXE Network Boot Featuring FreeBSD & Ubuntu Server Don't see what you need? Check the Full List or *PM me, if I haven't made it I'll add it to the list. *NOTE: I'll only add it to the list if the request is something I know I can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 16, 2019 Author On 11/15/2019 at 7:41 PM, Windows7ge said: So Software RAID? (Technically UNRAID isn't RAID) I can recommend HBA's such as the LSI 9207-8i or LSI 9201-16i both have been solid for my storage servers. If you have a tight budget and don't really need a SASII link per disk you can look into SAS Expanders. Connect the SSD's directly to the motherboard or HBA then all your spinning drives to the SAS Expander. Performance won't be hurt significantly (or at all) and it'd be a cost saver. I had a look at the LSI 9201-16i's - seems to be exactly what I am looking for. Thinking about making the underlying processor something like a Ryzen 5 2600x, just not sure whether it will be able to handle running 2 windows VM's at the same time as plex in a docker and general dutiies of being a NAS. What you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 17, 2019 54 minutes ago, Spontaneocus said: I had a look at the LSI 9201-16i's - seems to be exactly what I am looking for. Thinking about making the underlying processor something like a Ryzen 5 2600x, just not sure whether it will be able to handle running 2 windows VM's at the same time as plex in a docker and general dutiies of being a NAS. What you think? 6C/12T @ 3.6GHz. Depending on what the Windows VM's are doing they should handle that no problem. I don't have extensive knowledge on PLEX but I've been told when it's transcoding high ress videos it does eat quite a bit of the CPU. I'm not sure if it's heavily single or multi-threaded but the high core performance should help that. Guides & Tutorials: PROXMOX - Rebuilding ZFS RAID rpool After Disk Failure Mass Deploying Customized Windows 10/11 Installs Building a GNU/Linux Based Windows Deployment Server GNU/Linux Installer Server: Installation & Configuration How to: Use (i)PXE to Install Windows from a Network Why Memorize IP's When You Can Self-Host DNS Instead? Ventoy - The USB Multi-Boot Utility! Introduction to PXE/iPXE Network Boot Featuring FreeBSD & Ubuntu Server Don't see what you need? Check the Full List or *PM me, if I haven't made it I'll add it to the list. *NOTE: I'll only add it to the list if the request is something I know I can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 17, 2019 Author 2 hours ago, Windows7ge said: 6C/12T @ 3.6GHz. Depending on what the Windows VM's are doing they should handle that no problem. I don't have extensive knowledge on PLEX but I've been told when it's transcoding high ress videos it does eat quite a bit of the CPU. I'm not sure if it's heavily single or multi-threaded but the high core performance should help that. Well from my understanding, plex has the ability to hardware encode, so might shove something video card wise in and pass it through to the VM, offload the transcoding to that. Although to be honest with you. I prefer to use Tdarr to transcode my video files rather than plex. That way all of the files on my drive are the same format. Which will actually be what one of the VMs are for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, Spontaneocus said: Well from my understanding, plex has the ability to hardware encode, so might shove something video card wise in and pass it through to the VM, offload the transcoding to that. Although to be honest with you. I prefer to use Tdarr to transcode my video files rather than plex. That way all of the files on my drive are the same format. Which will actually be what one of the VMs are for. What core components are you going to be using if you don't mind me asking? Guides & Tutorials: PROXMOX - Rebuilding ZFS RAID rpool After Disk Failure Mass Deploying Customized Windows 10/11 Installs Building a GNU/Linux Based Windows Deployment Server GNU/Linux Installer Server: Installation & Configuration How to: Use (i)PXE to Install Windows from a Network Why Memorize IP's When You Can Self-Host DNS Instead? Ventoy - The USB Multi-Boot Utility! Introduction to PXE/iPXE Network Boot Featuring FreeBSD & Ubuntu Server Don't see what you need? Check the Full List or *PM me, if I haven't made it I'll add it to the list. *NOTE: I'll only add it to the list if the request is something I know I can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 17, 2019 Author 1 minute ago, Windows7ge said: What core components are you going to be using if you don't mind me asking? Still up in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, Spontaneocus said: Still up in the air. Well, make sure it supports PCI_e device pass-though if you want to give a GPU to a VM. Not all hardware supports that function. Guides & Tutorials: PROXMOX - Rebuilding ZFS RAID rpool After Disk Failure Mass Deploying Customized Windows 10/11 Installs Building a GNU/Linux Based Windows Deployment Server GNU/Linux Installer Server: Installation & Configuration How to: Use (i)PXE to Install Windows from a Network Why Memorize IP's When You Can Self-Host DNS Instead? Ventoy - The USB Multi-Boot Utility! Introduction to PXE/iPXE Network Boot Featuring FreeBSD & Ubuntu Server Don't see what you need? Check the Full List or *PM me, if I haven't made it I'll add it to the list. *NOTE: I'll only add it to the list if the request is something I know I can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 17, 2019 Author 13 minutes ago, Windows7ge said: Well, make sure it supports PCI_e device pass-though if you want to give a GPU to a VM. Not all hardware supports that function. IOMMU virtualisation right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, Spontaneocus said: IOMMU virtualisation right? IOMMU groups. Yep. If you go with Intel you need VT-d support. This is a CPU feature. If you go with AMD you need your South Bridge to support enabling IOMMU groups. What OS were you planning on having host this? I think a RAID10 for your boot drive is unnecessary depending on how you plan to set this up. Guides & Tutorials: PROXMOX - Rebuilding ZFS RAID rpool After Disk Failure Mass Deploying Customized Windows 10/11 Installs Building a GNU/Linux Based Windows Deployment Server GNU/Linux Installer Server: Installation & Configuration How to: Use (i)PXE to Install Windows from a Network Why Memorize IP's When You Can Self-Host DNS Instead? Ventoy - The USB Multi-Boot Utility! Introduction to PXE/iPXE Network Boot Featuring FreeBSD & Ubuntu Server Don't see what you need? Check the Full List or *PM me, if I haven't made it I'll add it to the list. *NOTE: I'll only add it to the list if the request is something I know I can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 17, 2019 Author Will definately be AMD - I'm "one of them" who stuck with AMD. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 17, 2019 Author Having to build the rack case myself because I just cannot find one I like which has enough space for what I need, but vertically rather than front to back (I have a short depth rack). The choices are quite pathetic. So I am aiming to build a 6u short depth case which should allow me to go full ATX mounted vertically. Also gives a hell of a lot of space for placing drive caddies in rows down the front for hot plug and play (or just easy access). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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