Is it worth waiting until Nvidias Ampere GPUs come out?

[BlockyMuffin]

I'm looking to get an RTX 2060 or maybe an RTX 2070, however there's rumours that the Ampere GPUs will be coming out and I'm wondering whether it is worth the wait or to just pull the trigger now and get an rtx 2060.

[Corrupt_Liberty]

What are you running right now?

 

Edit: nVidia Ampere is scheduled for 1H 2020 which puts it 3-9 months away if it's on time.  

[schwellmo92]

Ampere wouldn't be out for like 9-12 months at earliest as the Super refresh is still pretty new.

[Master Disaster]

Its never worth waiting, theres always something new waiting to be released and if you wait for the newest thing you'll be waiting forever.

 

Buy the best you can afford when you're ready to buy and be happy with what you got. rememebr that something newer being available doesn't change the thing you have.

[Bombastinator]

I don’t trust posted scheduling either.  What is being used for a GPU now is important.  My personal suspicion, which is a bit controversial, is at least specifically for games, the next major change will come when the navi20 game consoles are released.  The current prediction for that is mid 2020.  Maybe.  The problem is the capabilities of these systems are basically unknown.

[dizmo]

What do you have now?

If you don't need to upgrade, sure I'd wait. It's only 7 or 8 months away.

45 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

I don’t trust posted scheduling either.  What is being used for a GPU now is important.  My personal suspicion, which is a bit controversial, is at least specifically for games, the next major change will come when the navi20 game consoles are released.  The current prediction for that is mid 2020.  Maybe.  The problem is the capabilities of these systems are basically unknown.

Change in what way?

Consoles don't have some magical GPU in them. They perform better because the games are optimized for a specific set of hardware. Something you don't get on PC.

[BlockyMuffin]

1 hour ago, Corrupt_Liberty said:

What are you running right now?

 

Edit: nVidia Ampere is scheduled for 1H 2020 which puts it 3-9 months away if it's on time.  

I've currently got a Zotac GTX 1060 3gb mini

[Corrupt_Liberty]

37 minutes ago, BlockyMuffin said:

I've currently got a Zotac GTX 1060 3gb mini

The 1060 is still fairly capable at 1080p.  What are your reasons for wanting to upgrade?  Was there a specific issue you were having?

[Bombastinator]

5 hours ago, dizmo said:

What do you have now?

If you don't need to upgrade, sure I'd wait. It's only 7 or 8 months away.

Change in what way?

Consoles don't have some magical GPU in them. They perform better because the games are optimized for a specific set of hardware. Something you don't get on PC.

All sorts of claims are being made about the new console GPUs. That they’ll have 8-12gb of video memory, that they’ll have some sort of new and undefined currently hardware ray tracing stuff in them, etc..  my worry is that games are often designed for a console and then ported to PC.  Games designed first for the new console may rely on the console hardware in weird ways.  The new console GPU will likely not be super quick MHz wise.  There are power, cooling and consequent airflow  and cost issues that make that kind of thing hard.  If they come with 8gb of video ram that could turn into a minimum though.  That happened to me once already with breathedge.  There was a bug no one bothered to fix at first because it only happened if you had less than 8gb of video memory and most people didn’t. Also if the raytracing stuff can’t be removed from a game like it is used in some weird unconventional way to accelerate something else, lack of the right kind of raytracing hardware might possibly make things difficult.  Not probably.  Just possibly.  Game designers will design their game to get as much as possible out of the system.  We’ve seen this happen several times.  Not everyone does it.  Jaguar had a bunch of fairly slow CPU cores so some games went from single core to multi core to take advantage of it.  One or two were so good at it they got pretty CPU intensive.  My best guess is the new console GPU is going to be navi21 light.  Afaik it’s a black box as far as the ray tracing goes though.  So is it magic?  Maybe kinda.  It’s hard to tell from here atm.