new gaming PC for a 13 year old boy

[hardware junky]

I just posted this somewhere else in the forum and realized that it was in the wrong place.  im sorry for re-posting but

 

Heres what i was thinking would be good for this young man

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$117.58 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard	$119.89 @ OutletPC
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$84.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$94.00 @ Walmart
Storage	Western Digital Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive	$84.99 @ Newegg
Video Card	Asus GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB STRIX GAMING Advanced Video Card	$394.99 @ Newegg
Case	Corsair Carbide 175R RGB ATX Mid Tower Case	$69.98 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair CX (2017) 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$69.98 @ Amazon
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit	$99.89 @ OutletPC
Case Fan	Corsair HD120 RGB 3-Pack w/Controller 54.4 CFM 120 mm Fans	$73.89 @ OutletPC
Monitor	Asus VG248QG 24.0" 1920x1080 165 Hz Monitor	$179.99 @ Best Buy
Keyboard	Corsair K55 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard	$49.88 @ Amazon
Mouse	Corsair M65 RGB ELITE Wired Optical Mouse	$49.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1555.04
	Mail-in rebates	-$65.00
	Total	$1490.04
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-30 10:44 EDT-0400

 

 

his dad asked me to build him a PC for gaming and a little video editing for youtube.  no streaming.  the only game he told me about was fortnight.  I'm sure he will play other games but his dad doesnt really know.  I havent been in the building pc game in a couple of years and i just wanted to make sure that this would be a nice starter system for this kid to get into pc gaming.  his budget is $1500 for everything.  he has nothing.  im going to give him a gaming headset that ive had forever and never use but other than that i think ive thought of everything.  if anyone knows a better set up for the same money i would be interested in checking out your recomendations.  thanks in advance.  oh and his dad says he really likes the RGB lighting lol

 

i think he will be playing competitively online so i want him to be able to get high frame rates hence the monitor 

 

the extra hard drive space is because storage was cheap and he will be recording gameplay footage.

 

i picked out the 2060 so he could have gsync and ray tracing abilities

 

i picked the CPU because i thought it would not be a bottleneck and he could upgrade in a couple of years if need be.

 

i picked out a lot of RGB lighting because his dad said he wanted that

 

i picked the keyboard and mouse only for the prices. he will be picking out the peripherals that he wants

 

on a side note, his dad is not paying for this believe it or not.  he saved his money working summers.  i only say this because it impressed me and i want to make sure he gets his moneys worth for working so hard at such a young age.

[Dedayog]

I think you could tailor it a little more for him or save money, as 4TB of HDD isn't necessary.  

 

And don't make the poor kid pay $100 for Micro-bend-me-over-Soft.

 

Isn't the 5700XT better than the 2060?

[BuckGup]

I would swap the GPU and CPU and buy a windows key off a website like Kinguin for $10. Also you should have him help you build it so he learns too. I'd rather see a kid grow up to be a hardware enthusiast than a gamer

[hardware junky]

2 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

I think you could tailor it a little more for him or save money, as 4TB of HDD isn't necessary.  

 

And don't make the poor kid pay $100 for Micro-bend-me-over-Soft.

 

Isn't the 5700XT better than the 2060?

idk if the 5700xt is "better" or not but the 2060 has ray tracing and its an option i wanted to give him

the hard drive was $85.  thats pretty cheap and the M.2 should give him the performance

Im actually giving him a copy of windows myself for free but i added that to cover taxes or maybe a better keyboard/mouse

[Fasauceome]

That is a really expensive 2060, holy cow. You can get a 5700 XT, or if you're really looking for nvidia, a 2070, which isn't as powerful.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$117.58 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	MSI B450 Gaming Plus ATX AM4 Motherboard	$96.89 @ OutletPC
Memory	GeIL EVO SPEAR 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$64.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$94.00 @ Walmart
Storage	Western Digital RE 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$69.50 @ Amazon
Video Card	PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Red Dragon Video Card	$409.99 @ Amazon
Case	Corsair Carbide 175R RGB ATX Mid Tower Case	$69.98 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair CX (2017) 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$69.98 @ Amazon
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit	$99.89 @ OutletPC
Case Fan	Corsair HD120 RGB 3-Pack w/Controller 54.4 CFM 120 mm Fans	$73.89 @ OutletPC
Monitor	Asus VG248QG 24.0" 1920x1080 165 Hz Monitor	$179.99 @ Best Buy
Keyboard	Corsair K55 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard	$49.88 @ Amazon
Mouse	Corsair M65 RGB ELITE Wired Optical Mouse	$49.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1481.55
	Mail-in rebates	-$35.00
	Total	$1446.55
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-30 12:36 EDT-0400

 

[jaslion]

4 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

I think you could tailor it a little more for him or save money, as 4TB of HDD isn't necessary.  

 

And don't make the poor kid pay $100 for Micro-bend-me-over-Soft.

 

Isn't the 5700XT better than the 2060?

The 5700xt is better than the 2060

[hardware junky]

1 minute ago, jaslion said:

The 5700xt is better than the 2060

what do you mean by "better"

[Dedayog]

Just now, hardware junky said:

what do you mean by "better"

Better.... as in how we measure video cards for the most part. More fps per dollar.

Ray Tracing isn't there yet, and if he turns it on with a 2060.... he'll have a slideshow ;(

 

 

[Streetguru]

15 minutes ago, hardware junky said:

 

The RX 5700/XT is a faster GPU for the same price, Probably want a 2070 super for ray tracing, but it's still hardly in any games.

Do not buy $70 RGB fans lol

 

that case has no airflow

 

I would just get an R5 3600 + RX 5700 + 1080p 240hz display

Could save $50 by not getting an RGB case, and 3200mhz CL16 memory.

You can get a windows 10 key for $5 on ebay.

Can buy some Siberia 200s for pretty cheap, otherwise maybe get some arctis 3 or "arctis one" headset for like $50.

For sure go for like the new coolermaster super light weight mouse

And check the part picker for mechanical keyboards they are around the same price
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tFffHB

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($194.79 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($159.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel 660p 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 5700 8 GB DD Ultra Video Card  ($319.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox MB511 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($83.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($85.15 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Alienware AW2518HF 24.5" 1920x1080 240 Hz Monitor  ($279.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $1278.38

Could buy a cooler later
CPU Cooler: Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.99 @ Amazon)

[hardware junky]

4 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

That is a really expensive 2060, holy cow. You can get a 5700 XT, or if you're really looking for nvidia, a 2070, which isn't as powerful.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$117.58 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	MSI B450 Gaming Plus ATX AM4 Motherboard	$96.89 @ OutletPC
Memory	GeIL EVO SPEAR 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$64.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$94.00 @ Walmart
Storage	Western Digital RE 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$69.50 @ Amazon
Video Card	PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Red Dragon Video Card	$409.99 @ Amazon
Case	Corsair Carbide 175R RGB ATX Mid Tower Case	$69.98 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair CX (2017) 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$69.98 @ Amazon
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit	$99.89 @ OutletPC
Case Fan	Corsair HD120 RGB 3-Pack w/Controller 54.4 CFM 120 mm Fans	$73.89 @ OutletPC
Monitor	Asus VG248QG 24.0" 1920x1080 165 Hz Monitor	$179.99 @ Best Buy
Keyboard	Corsair K55 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard	$49.88 @ Amazon
Mouse	Corsair M65 RGB ELITE Wired Optical Mouse	$49.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1481.55
	Mail-in rebates	-$35.00
	Total	$1446.55
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-30 12:36 EDT-0400

 

the 2070 is $100 more and i picked it to match the MB and have the RGB lights he wants

[hardware junky]

1 minute ago, jstudrawa said:

Better.... as in how we measure video cards for the most part. More fps per dollar.

Ray Tracing isn't there yet, and if he turns it on with a 2060.... he'll have a slideshow ;(

 

 

i have a 2060 and it runs everything at 1440p really nice with proper FPS.  Ray tracing may not be there but it is an option that the 5700 doesnt have

[hardware junky]

3 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

The RX 5700/XT is a faster GPU for the same price, Probably want a 2070 super for ray tracing, but it's still hardly in any games.

Do not buy $70 RGB fans lol

 

that case has no airflow

 

I would just get an R5 3600 + RX 5700 + 1080p 240hz display

Could save $50 by not getting an RGB case, and 3200mhz CL16 memory.

You can get a windows 10 key for $5 on ebay.

Can buy some Siberia 200s for pretty cheap, otherwise maybe get some arctis 3 or "arctis one" headset for like $50.

For sure go for like the new coolermaster super light weight mouse

And check the part picker for mechanical keyboards they are around the same price
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tFffHB

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($194.79 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($159.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel 660p 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 5700 8 GB DD Ultra Video Card  ($319.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox MB511 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($83.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($85.15 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Alienware AW2518HF 24.5" 1920x1080 240 Hz Monitor  ($279.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $1278.38

Could buy a cooler later
CPU Cooler: Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.99 @ Amazon)

thanks ill look into all of that

[Dedayog]

Just now, hardware junky said:

i have a 2060 and it runs everything at 1440p really nice with proper FPS.  Ray tracing may not be there but it is an option that the 5700 doesnt have

While you may have that viewpoint,  you're not building the PC for yourself.

 

If you give your "client" a PC with a 2060 for that price specifically for Ray Tracing.. you will be doing him a disservice.

 

 

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, hardware junky said:

i have a 2060 and it runs everything at 1440p really nice with proper FPS.  Ray tracing may not be there but it is an option that the 5700 doesnt have

that's a pretty important factor, you should have mentioned that in the original post

[hardware junky]

5 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

Better.... as in how we measure video cards for the most part. More fps per dollar.

Ray Tracing isn't there yet, and if he turns it on with a 2060.... he'll have a slideshow ;(

 

 

i just realized that you were saying if you turned on ray tracing with the 2060 it would be bad.  im getting pretty good performance with raytracing on the new Metro game.  it wasnt good when the game first came out but after an update its running great.

[hardware junky]

5 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

that's a pretty important factor, you should have mentioned that in the original post

i dont understand. i did point out in the original post that i picked the 2060 so he could have the option to have ray tracing.  unless your saying that me having a 2060 would be an important factor.  i dont see why that would be of any importance.  of course it did persuade me to pick it for him since it works so well for me but i am looking at performance differences since you brought up the 5700x.  i didnt really know about that card untill people started telling me about it on this forum. lol like i said its been awhile since ive built a PC

[Streetguru]

6 minutes ago, hardware junky said:

thanks ill look into all of that

There's the mouse anyways, I would go for MX reds or blacks

 

If minecraft is his thing, you can run ray tracing on any GPU with a bit of work
$32 clicky keyboard
https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K552-Mechanical-Keyboard-Equivalent/dp/B016MAK38U/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=Redragon&qid=1572454381&sr=8-3

$65 beautiful beast with cherry switches, not really a huge upgrade though.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0186W6PQ6?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1
 

 

 

Arctis 3s probably have better audio than the "1"

https://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-All-Platform-Headset-PlayStation-Nintendo/dp/B07KWHL2QR/ref=asc_df_B07KWHL2QR/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=241894884706&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10569705638753260234&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031291&hvtargid=pla-629089367169&psc=1

[Fasauceome]

4 minutes ago, hardware junky said:

i dont understand. i did point out in the original post that i picked the 2060 so he could have the option to have ray tracing

you said you picked it, not that you already had it. If you have not purchased it, choose AMD instead, RTX on an entry level RTX  card is not meaningful at this time.

[hardware junky]

Just now, Streetguru said:

There's the mouse anyways, I would go for MX reds or blacks

 

If minecraft is his thing, you can run ray tracing on any GPU with a bit of work
$32 clicky keyboard
https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K552-Mechanical-Keyboard-Equivalent/dp/B016MAK38U/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=Redragon&qid=1572454381&sr=8-3

$65 beautiful beast with cherry switches, not really a huge upgrade though.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0186W6PQ6?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1
 

 

 

Arctis 3s probably have better audio than the "1"

https://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-All-Platform-Headset-PlayStation-Nintendo/dp/B07KWHL2QR/ref=asc_df_B07KWHL2QR/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=241894884706&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10569705638753260234&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031291&hvtargid=pla-629089367169&psc=1

that looks cool but like i stated in the original post those are just there for prices. i really wanted him to pick out his own mouse and keyboard

[hardware junky]

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

you said you picked it, not that you already had it. If you have not purchased it, choose AMD instead, RTX on an entry level RTX  card is not meaningful at this time.

no i havent bought it for him.  i have one in my own system. sorry for the confusion

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, hardware junky said:

that looks cool but like i stated in the original post those are just there for prices. i really wanted him to pick out his own mouse and keyboard

Ya, but you probably don't want to end up with cheap Chinese gear that looks nice.

[hardware junky]

3 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

you said you picked it, not that you already had it. If you have not purchased it, choose AMD instead, RTX on an entry level RTX  card is not meaningful at this time.

i edited one of the last posts to clear that up

[hardware junky]

5 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

you said you picked it, not that you already had it. If you have not purchased it, choose AMD instead, RTX on an entry level RTX  card is not meaningful at this time.

also i run raytracing on the new metro game and it runs really good at 1440p so i dont really understand why people say that its not good on this card.  i cant turn ray tracing all the way up but i can turn it on and it looks amazing.  i will say that when metro first came out the ray tracing was broken as all hell but after they updated the game it works pretty good for me.  im talking about my personal system btw not the one for the kid.  i havent bought anything for him yet

[The Torrent]

41 minutes ago, hardware junky said:

I just posted this somewhere else in the forum and realized that it was in the wrong place.  im sorry for re-posting but

 

Heres what i was thinking would be good for this young man

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$117.58 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard	$119.89 @ OutletPC
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$84.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$94.00 @ Walmart
Storage	Western Digital Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive	$84.99 @ Newegg
Video Card	Asus GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB STRIX GAMING Advanced Video Card	$394.99 @ Newegg
Case	Corsair Carbide 175R RGB ATX Mid Tower Case	$69.98 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair CX (2017) 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$69.98 @ Amazon
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit	$99.89 @ OutletPC
Case Fan	Corsair HD120 RGB 3-Pack w/Controller 54.4 CFM 120 mm Fans	$73.89 @ OutletPC
Monitor	Asus VG248QG 24.0" 1920x1080 165 Hz Monitor	$179.99 @ Best Buy
Keyboard	Corsair K55 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard	$49.88 @ Amazon
Mouse	Corsair M65 RGB ELITE Wired Optical Mouse	$49.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1555.04
	Mail-in rebates	-$65.00
	Total	$1490.04
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-30 10:44 EDT-0400

 

 

his dad asked me to build him a PC for gaming and a little video editing for youtube.  no streaming.  the only game he told me about was fortnight.  I'm sure he will play other games but his dad doesnt really know.  I havent been in the building pc game in a couple of years and i just wanted to make sure that this would be a nice starter system for this kid to get into pc gaming.  his budget is $1500 for everything.  he has nothing.  im going to give him a gaming headset that ive had forever and never use but other than that i think ive thought of everything.  if anyone knows a better set up for the same money i would be interested in checking out your recomendations.  thanks in advance.  oh and his dad says he really likes the RGB lighting lol

 

i think he will be playing competitively online so i want him to be able to get high frame rates hence the monitor 

 

the extra hard drive space is because storage was cheap and he will be recording gameplay footage.

 

i picked out the 2060 so he could have gsync and ray tracing abilities

 

i picked the CPU because i thought it would not be a bottleneck and he could upgrade in a couple of years if need be.

 

i picked out a lot of RGB lighting because his dad said he wanted that

 

i picked the keyboard and mouse only for the prices. he will be picking out the peripherals that he wants

 

on a side note, his dad is not paying for this believe it or not.  he saved his money working summers.  i only say this because it impressed me and i want to make sure he gets his moneys worth for working so hard at such a young age.

Power supply I say always rmx. 
that m.2 is a bit shitty let me recommend a sabrent rocket.

get 2tb 7200rpm instead. He don’t need that match storage.

I’m not saying you should for forum reasons, but I always pay £2 for a windows key of eBay.
edit also if he’s doing competitive I’m sure he’ll prefer an extra 10fps over ray tracing. Ray tracing on a 2060 is junk anyway so I say go rx 5700 or such.

[Likwid]

2 hours ago, hardware junky said:

also i run raytracing on the new metro game and it runs really good at 1440p so i dont really understand why people say that its not good on this card.  i cant turn ray tracing all the way up but i can turn it on and it looks amazing.  i will say that when metro first came out the ray tracing was broken as all hell but after they updated the game it works pretty good for me.  im talking about my personal system btw not the one for the kid.  i havent bought anything for him yet

Cpu won't do for 165fps gaming, get 3600, raytracing at this fps is not and option, go with 5700xt, will get money on those by saving on bling and giving him a lot better performance