why the f*** can i not get IOS 13!

[wasab]

38 minutes ago, Commodus said:

Are they using iOS 12?  And have you checked to see if battery throttling was turned on (not that it's great, but it's important to check)?  'Cause I've used my parents' old phones multiple times over the past year, and for common uses they were just fine.  For that matter, my two-year-old iPad Pro is as speedy as ever.

It's a 5 year old iPad and iPad mini. No iOS 12 update. 

 

39 minutes ago, Commodus said:

And Project Treble was supposed to speed the update process, but it didn't, either.  

That's because treble still relies on oem to push the updates. 

 

[Commodus]

1 minute ago, wasab said:

It's a 5 year old iPad and iPad mini. No iOS 12 update. 

Well, can't help it if they weren't eligible for iOS 12 (which does more to help older devices) in the first place!

 

2 minutes ago, wasab said:

That's because treble still relies on oem to push the updates. 

Which seems incredibly naive on Google's part.  Again, we'll want to wait and see.  Google has repeatedly promised "no really, we've found a way to avoid slow OEM updates this time" only to watch those efforts fall flat (remember when it got a whole bunch of OEMs to simply promise better updates?  Yeah, that didn't work).  Mainline could help, but I'm not counting on someone's Galaxy S10 getting a steady stream of Google feature updates once Android 10 is ready for it.

[Zando_]

5 minutes ago, wasab said:

It's a 5 year old iPad and iPad mini. No iOS 12 update. 

Which iPad and which iPad mini? There's stark differences between some of the gens performance wise, and iOS updates depend on the SoC they're running. 

[wasab]

2 minutes ago, Commodus said:

Well, can't help it if they weren't eligible for iOS 12 (which does more to help older devices) in the first place!

I doubt it.

 

2 minutes ago, Commodus said:

Which seems incredibly naive on Google's part.  Again, we'll want to wait and see.  Google has repeatedly promised "no really, we've found a way to avoid slow OEM updates this time" only to watch those efforts fall flat (remember when it got a whole bunch of OEMs to simply promise better updates?  Yeah, that didn't work).  Mainline could help, but I'm not counting on someone's Galaxy S10 getting a steady stream of Google feature updates once Android 10 is ready for it.

I would still just flash a rom if I want newer Android version or features. The good thing about Android is it is possible to avoid stock and official softwares that are ship to you.