Rx 590 vs 5700 XT

[cathobb]

Hi guys, this is my first topic

I am building a new computer, but I have doubts in Wich gpu I'll choose, I figured I might get some help here

 

I want either 590 Nitro Blue edition or 5700xt nitro 

 

The system I am building is for streaming/gaming

Ryzen 7 2700x

Rog Strix B-450F

16 gb Gskill Tridentz 3600

 

I am either going for a Spectre 24 or 27 inch monitor

 

I don't know if I should post any more info, but this is what I am going for so far, I only have the motherboard at this moment 

 

 

[Stormseeker9]

Uuu.. 5700XT, hands down, if it comes to raw performance. 

[cathobb]

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[cathobb]

1 minute ago, Stormseeker9 said:

Uuu.. 5700XT, hands down, if it comes to raw performance. 

So the 5700 doesn't get bottlenecked by the R7?

That was my main concern

[Stormseeker9]

2 minutes ago, cathobb said:

So the 5700 doesn't get bottlenecked by the R7?

That was my main concern

I use a 2070 with my 2700x, So no. 2700x is a strong cpu, having 8c/16T.

 

i mean for 60 fps at 1440p? 5700xt will easily do that. 4K 120hz? Not even a 2080Ti can do that on high/ultra settings. I would suggest taking a look at some 144hz 1440P monitors too

[goto10]

remember that bottleneck is just unused power form the cpu or the gpu, it will not break anything, nothing will fail or give you problems

 

the idea of bottleneck is that one part pushes hard and the other too, none will make the other run slower, so you squeeze every drop of performance you can, so bottleneck is not happening often but it will eventually happen under some circumstance

 

if you can, go with the 5700, definitively, the 590 is nice, but the 5700 is way better, only buy the 590 if you find it really cheap and your budget is limited

[cathobb]

1 minute ago, Stormseeker9 said:

I use a 2070 with my 2700x, So no. 2700x is a strong cpu, having 8c/16T.

 

i mean for 60 fps at 1440p? 5700xt will easily do that. 4K 120hz? Not even a 2080Ti can do that on high/ultra settings. I would suggest taking a look at some 144hz 1440P monitors too

Thanks for the info, this definitively helps!

I'll see what I can find and afford, but now that I know this, this will help, thank you so much!

[bmichaels556]

1 hour ago, cathobb said:

So the 5700 doesn't get bottlenecked by the R7?

That was my main concern

So the thing is.. When you look at something like a 2080Ti for example, even an i9 9900K can't fully use it at 1080P with high framerates. So it's all relative and depends so much on how it is that you play games. 

 

But stepping down to an RX 5700 / XT with a 2700X, I think that's a good pairing and you'll be just fine. I expect SOME bottleneck if going for 1080p absolute max FPS. Stepping up to 1440p for example, there would be virtually no different. 

 

What really matters is if you're going for absolute maximum frames per second at lower resolution. 

 

Also, I agree with Stormseeker. This will be a REALLY nice setup for 1440p 120hz+ gaming. 

[Stormseeker9]

4 hours ago, comander said:

In the bulk of titles GPU matters WAY WAY WAY more than CPU. 

It matters more now than it did in the past as well. 

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Both overclocked 3900x and 9900k chips are bottlenecked by parts like the Titan V and Titan RTX. If you cut the clock speed on the CPUs from 4-5Ghz down to 2-3GHz you wouldn't lose half of your frames - especially if you're at 1440p or higher. 

That’s a first I hear this 

[BTGbullseye]

On 10/30/2019 at 2:48 AM, comander said:

Anecdotally, I didn't see a difference between my 1700 and 3900x. 

Actually, if you'd gotten a 3800x instead, you would've been more likely to notice at stock, due to a higher core clock. The 3900x is designed more for multithreading than single-core speed.

[MangoMyCactus]

On 10/29/2019 at 11:47 AM, Stormseeker9 said:

I use a 2070 with my 2700x, So no. 2700x is a strong cpu, having 8c/16T.

 

i mean for 60 fps at 1440p? 5700xt will easily do that. 4K 120hz? Not even a 2080Ti can do that on high/ultra settings. I would suggest taking a look at some 144hz 1440P monitors too

What about the drivers I keep hearing are so bad. I'm in the process of upgrading my pc and I'm stuck on GPU as well. I keep thinking 5700 or 5700x but I keep hearing all these terrible things about drivers and how people should stay away from these gpu

[Stormseeker9]

2 minutes ago, MangoMyCactus said:

What about the drivers I keep hearing are so bad. I'm in the process of upgrading my pc and I'm stuck on GPU as well. I keep thinking 5700 or 5700x but I keep hearing all these terrible things about drivers and how people should stay away from these gpu

afaik that were teething issues at launch, currently the drivers are stable I believe.

[MangoMyCactus]

9 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

afaik that were teething issues at launch, currently the drivers are stable I believe.

Ok. Well I'm probably gonna go for it then. Thank you for the help! Now just gotta figure out if the x is worth it or not

 

[Deli]

18 minutes ago, MangoMyCactus said:

What about the drivers I keep hearing are so bad. I'm in the process of upgrading my pc and I'm stuck on GPU as well. I keep thinking 5700 or 5700x but I keep hearing all these terrible things about drivers and how people should stay away from these gpu

Propaganda from Nvidia fanboys. When you do google search. You can find plenty of problems about RTX black screen, shuttering also. It turns out many of those "driver problems" are from like bad PSU(unstable voltage) or running both Wattman and MSI Afterburner at the same time, etc.

 

Yes, there are still bugs for RX5700 for multiscreen and 240Hz monitor with low setting. AMD is aware of those problems. So we can expect fixes will come soon.

 

BTW. I have 5700XT for more than a month. Running a 1440p 144Hz monitor(one monitor only). I never experience any shuttering, black screen that sort of shit. Very much problem free.

[Stormseeker9]

3 minutes ago, MangoMyCactus said:

Ok. Well I'm probably gonna go for it then. Thank you for the help! Now just gotta figure out if the x is worth it or not

 

What resolutio are you targetting and FPS?

[MangoMyCactus]

2 minutes ago, Deli said:

Propaganda from Nvidia fanboys. When you do google search. You can find plenty of problems about RTX black screen, shuttering also.

 

Yes, there are still bugs for RX5700 for multiscreen and 240Hz monitor with low setting. AMD is aware of those problems. So we can expect fixes will come soon.

 

BTW. I have 5700XT for more than a month. Running a 1440p 144Hz monitor(one monitor only). I never experience any shuttering, black screen that sort of shit. Very much problem free.

That's awesome! I'm glad to talk to someone who actually has the gpu. I do plan on running dual monitors tho. But i suppose one monitor until the issues are resolved isn't that big of a deal. Especially since it's the most bang for your buck I feel.

[MangoMyCactus]

2 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

What resolutio are you targetting and FPS?

Ok so currently I have A320M asrock mother board. (Not a fan) and ryzen 3 1200. And a 1050ti. So honestly I'm just trying to get it to wear my cpu isn't maxing out playing a game like the outer worlds on low everything. Huge moments of frozen screen is currently what is happening. Very laggy game play. So I've picked out a ×570 mobo. The ryzen 5 3600 and still trying to decide on gpu. But narrowed it down to 5700 or 5700x I would like better performance obviously but is the x worth the additional money in performance?

[Stormseeker9]

Just now, MangoMyCactus said:

Ok so currently I have A320M asrock mother board. (Not a fan) and ryzen 3 1200. And a 1050ti. So honestly I'm just trying to get it to wear my cpu isn't maxing out playing a game like the outer worlds on low everything. Huge moments of frozen screen is currently what is happening. Very laggy game play. So I've picked out a ×570 mobo. The ryzen 5 3600 and still trying to decide on gpu. But narrowed it down to 5700 or 5700x I would like better performance obviously but is the x worth the additional money in performance?

This doesn’t answer my question?

 

1080P —> 5700

1440P —> 5700XT

[MangoMyCactus]

10 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

This doesn’t answer my question?

 

1080P —> 5700

1440P —> 5700XT

I would like 1440P. 

[Stormseeker9]

12 minutes ago, MangoMyCactus said:

I would like 1440P. 

Well.. I gave you the answer already. 5700XT