Is there much of an FPS difference Between 3400G and 3600?

[Jakebrims]

Hi

i have a GTX 1070 and want to upgrade CPU is there much of an FPS difference between 3600 and 3400g?

 

[Sorenson]

I would say so. However, your signature says "8gb ddr4 2100mhz" which i'm assuming is a single dimm. I would first invest in faster dual channel ram, like ddr4 3000-3600mhz before upgrading to the 3600. Note, that if you get 3600 mhz with your 3400g, you'll probably need to run it at a slower speed. 

[Jakebrims]

1 minute ago, Sorenson said:

I would say so. However, your signature says "8gb ddr4 2100mhz" which i'm assuming is a single dimm. I would first invest in faster dual channel ram, like ddr4 3000-3600mhz before upgrading to the 3600. Note, that if you get 3600 mhz with your 3400g, you'll probably need to run it at a slower speed. 

sorry i have a 2400mhz just not changed yet, is it a significant difference?

 

 

[Sorenson]

Just now, Jakebrims said:

sorry i have a 2400mhz just not changed yet, is it a significant difference?

 

 

if its dual channel then it should be fine. there's an LMG video on overclocking Ryzen 3000 cpu's that showed they were able to overclock the infinity fabric on slower ram to get the cpu working at near faster ram speeds. So, you should be fine. 

[Princess Luna]

15 minutes ago, Jakebrims said:

i have a GTX 1070 and want to upgrade CPU is there much of an FPS difference between 3600 and 3400g?

Yes a whole lot because the 3400G is a quadcore based on Zen + (Ryzen 2000 series architecture) while the 3600 is an hexacore based on Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000 series architecutre).

[Jakebrims]

Just now, Princess Luna said:

Yes a whole lot because the 3400G is a quadcore based on Zen + (Ryzen 2000 series architecture) while the 3600 is an hexacore based on Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000 series architecutre).

So a big FPS difference???

[Princess Luna]

Just now, Jakebrims said:

So a big FPS difference???

Yeah, even if you run into a GPU bottleneck it is worth getting the R5 3600.

[Jakebrims]

2 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

Yeah, even if you run into a GPU bottleneck it is worth getting the R5 3600.

Thank you

[Streetguru]

19 minutes ago, Jakebrims said:

Hi

i have a GTX 1070 and want to upgrade CPU is there much of an FPS difference between 3600 and 3400g?

 

What is your budget for the upgrades?

[Jakebrims]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

What is your budget for the upgrades?

i found  A mobo and 3600 for 249£ but dont want to go above that. its just if i can get a CPU for £50 cheaper with a little differecne ill get that lol

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, Jakebrims said:

i found  A mobo and 3600 for 249£ but dont want to go above that. its just if i can get a CPU for £50 cheaper with a little differecne ill get that lol

What motherboard? just needs to have a decent VRM with a decently sized heatsink.

and the bios needs to be updated for the 3600 series, otherwise you have to borrow a CPU.

[Jakebrims]

Just now, Streetguru said:

What motherboard? just needs to have a decent VRM with a decently sized heatsink.

and the bios needs to be updated for the 3600 series, otherwise you have to borrow a CPU.

B450M DS3H  

i think it comes in a bundle but i think its pre flashed

 

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, Jakebrims said:

B450M DS3H 

Better off with a gaming plus, has USB bios flashing and a much bigger heatsink
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/nrBRD2

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£180.78 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: MSI B450M GAMING PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£72.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £253.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-03 19:48 BST+0100

[Fasauceome]

it depends on your performance target. If you're shooting for 60 fps and are already getting consistent 60 fps, then upgrading would not help. Like noted before, higher frequency ram would also yield a benefit.

[Jakebrims]

10 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Better off with a gaming plus, has USB bios flashing and a much bigger heatsink
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/nrBRD2

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£180.78 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: MSI B450M GAMING PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£72.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £253.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-03 19:48 BST+0100

Thanks, How is the mobo better?? idk much about it

[Jakebrims]

3 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

it depends on your performance target. If you're shooting for 60 fps and are already getting consistent 60 fps, then upgrading would not help. Like noted before, higher frequency ram would also yield a benefit.

Yeah thanks, RAM is my next upgrade

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Jakebrims said:

Yeah thanks, RAM is my next upgrade

The gaming plus has USB bios flashing for recovery, and a bigger VRM heatsink so you don't have to worry about stressing your VRM. 

For the RAM you're going to want 16gbs of 3200mhz CL14-16 or 3600mhz CL16 
 

something like that, CL14 is usually way more expensive though.
 

 

[Jakebrims]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

The gaming plus has USB bios flashing for recovery, and a bigger VRM heatsink so you don't have to worry about stressing your VRM. 

For the RAM you're going to want 16gbs of 3200mhz CL14-16 or 3600mhz CL16 
 

something like that, CL14 is usually way more expensive though.
 

 

Ok thank you