i9 9900ks

[richintheveins]

Any thoughts on the i9 9900ks? I really don't understand the reason of putting out a binned i9 9900k, but I'm hoping there is more to it. Do you think it will overclock to lets say 5.3 ghz easily? Thermals? 

[Princess Luna]

There are no differences what so ever between the vanilla 9900K and this upcoming 9900KS, the only thing Intel is doing is what AiB Partners do on the GPU segment for ages, they are selling you a factory overclock.

 

This processor will be short lived either ways as it seems it'll come a month prior to 10th gen.

[Jarno.]

It has TDP of 95W but well.... you probably can't not even use that as a indication. I'm not sure how it makes sense when we have the 9900k unelss gaming and running single core tasks is anything you do.

[richintheveins]

6 minutes ago, Jarno. said:

It has TDP of 95W but well.... you probably can't not even use that as a indication. I'm not sure how it makes sense when we have the 9900k unelss gaming and running single core tasks is anything you do.

I'll be shocked if that holds true. Definitely not in a real world scenario. They should market it at around 125w as I suspect that it will need at least that. 

[richintheveins]

8 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

There are no differences what so ever between the vanilla 9900K and this upcoming 9900KS, the only thing Intel is doing is what AiB Partners do on the GPU segment for ages, they are selling you a factory overclock.

 

This processor will be short lived either ways as it seems it'll come a month prior to 10th gen.

I wonder if it will have a lower temp when boosting to 5 ghz all cores. My 9900k gets pretty hot when I overclocked it to 5ghz all cores. I didn't see the value in longevity vs performance so I just dropped it back to stock settings. 

[Princess Luna]

13 minutes ago, Jarno. said:

it has TDP of 95W but well.

It does not, it has been learned that the listed TDP will be 127W.

 

That said, TDP is meaningless.

[melete]

20 minutes ago, richintheveins said:

Any thoughts on the i9 9900ks? I really don't understand the reason of putting out a binned i9 9900k, but I'm hoping there is more to it. Do you think it will overclock to lets say 5.3 ghz easily? Thermals? 

It’s definitely just a binned 9900k. There’s nothing more to it, and it exists because Intel can offer nothing more than that in 2019. I’d expect similar performance as good 9900k silicon because that’s essentially what it is. 

[Jarno.]

2 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

It does not, it has been learned that the listed TDP will be 127W.

 

That said, TDP is meaningless.

True but it is meant for giving a indication for the cooling solution how much heat will be put out. Problem is that Intel make that calculation on the base clock. Also double checked and indeed I was wrong.

[richintheveins]

Just now, melete said:

It’s definitely just a binned 9900k. There’s nothing more to it, and it exists because Intel can offer nothing more than that in 2019. I’d expect similar performance as good 9900k silicon because that’s essentially what it is. 

Yeah that my feeling as well. I don't understand intel, but I guess you can't always be on top. For the consumer competition is always better! AMD is shining for now. 

[porina]

33 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

There are no differences what so ever between the vanilla 9900K and this upcoming 9900KS, the only thing Intel is doing is what AiB Partners do on the GPU segment for ages, they are selling you a factory overclock.

If you were to call this an overclock, then a 3800X is an overclocked 3700X? It's just a better bin, nothing more.

 

18 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

That said, TDP is meaningless.

TDP has meaning, just not what some might want it to mean. That's a different problem.

 

Note Zen 2 can also run above its TDP. Both my 3600 and 3700X are 65W TDP parts, yet have an 88W PPT limit stock that is easy to reach. The only difference I see is Intel doesn't enforce a limit by default, whereas AMD does. Either way, both can go above TDP in stock running.

[richintheveins]

So its like 9 days left in October and still no release date in site......idk about you guys but there has been quite a bit of things that have sparked my interest that have been delayed this year