Ryzen 3700x high temps?

[Mateus Montemor]

Hi, im currently using a ryzen 3700x and its reaching temps that i think are too high, even for the new ryzen and all the vcore thing, during cinebench reaches 84, which is ok for a air cooler, but in aida 64 the cpu gets max temps of 94C, even though the average hits like 85C, is it a cpu thing or cooling? Currently using the noctua u14s and already reinstalled it with new thermal paste application, only 1 to 2C improvement, one thing i notice is after i removed the wraith prism i had, some of the thermal paste went to the side of the cpu,maybe i didnt cleaned enough on the sides and some thermal paste there could be blocking thermals? Quite unlikely, but idk, all tests show ryzen has high temps,but not that much, and how do i clean the sides the paper towel and isopropyl alcohol seems not to reach the corners 

 

[Streetguru]

8 minutes ago, Mateus Montemor said:

 

Just like touch your Noctua cooler near the base plate and see if it's actually hot, it might just be misreporting temperatures.

Also make sure you have enough mounting pressure and put plenty of paste doesn't really matter if some spills out to the side, and if possible line up the heatpipes with the dies if there's a different mounting orientation. I wouldn't really unmount it for now though just make sure it's tight.

Did you clean off the CPU after removing the stock heatsink or did you try to reuse the paste from the stock heatsink?

 

[Turtle Rig]

13 minutes ago, Mateus Montemor said:

Hi, im currently using a ryzen 3700x and its reaching temps that i think are too high, even for the new ryzen and all the vcore thing, during cinebench reaches 84, which is ok for a air cooler, but in aida 64 the cpu gets max temps of 94C, even though the average hits like 85C, is it a cpu thing or cooling? Currently using the noctua u14s and already reinstalled it with new thermal paste application, only 1 to 2C improvement, one thing i notice is after i removed the wraith prism i had, some of the thermal paste went to the side of the cpu,maybe i didnt cleaned enough on the sides and some thermal paste there could be blocking thermals? Quite unlikely, but idk, all tests show ryzen has high temps,but not that much, and how do i clean the sides the paper towel and isopropyl alcohol seems not to reach the corners 

 

I would take off cooler clean all paste and re paste and insatll the cooler and screw it on nice and tight but not enough to crack the mobo and what not.

[Mateus Montemor]

25 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Just like touch your Noctua cooler near the base plate and see if it's actually hot, it might just be misreporting temperatures.

Also make sure you have enough mounting pressure and put plenty of paste doesn't really matter if some spills out to the side, and if possible line up the heatpipes with the dies if there's a different mounting orientation. I wouldn't really unmount it for now though just make sure it's tight.

Did you clean off the CPU after removing the stock heatsink or did you try to reuse the paste from the stock heatsink?

 

Yes, mounted with the recommended pressure (Just a tiny bit more after both the screws stop) and cleaned and reapplied all the paste the first time from wraith to u14s and same for the reinstall of the noctua, Will try to see If the base is hot.

[Mateus Montemor]

23 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

I would take off cooler clean all paste and re paste and insatll the cooler and screw it on nice and tight but not enough to crack the mobo and what not.

Thats what i did, 1-2 degrees cooler, but maybe i Will try a third time If It persists one more week ir after the new AMD BIOS update

[Turtle Rig]

7 minutes ago, Mateus Montemor said:

Thats what i did, 1-2 degrees cooler, but maybe i Will try a third time If It persists one more week ir after the new AMD BIOS update

Yes man this is a bummer 94c is not very good lol.  Your nearing in on TJ MAX then your system will shutdown to prevent the CPU from dying and what not.

[Streetguru]

16 minutes ago, Mateus Montemor said:

Thats what i did, 1-2 degrees cooler, but maybe i Will try a third time If It persists one more week ir after the new AMD BIOS update

What kind of voltages is your motherboard throwing at your CPU?

Try manually controlling your frequency and voltage in the bios or just with Ryzen Master Should be able to do 4ghz at 1.2V I think, 1.3V was the max daily recommended voltage I saw somewhere due to the 7nm process.

[Mateus Montemor]

1 hour ago, Turtle Rig said:

Yes man this is a bummer 94c is not very good lol.  Your nearing in on TJ MAX then your system will shutdown to prevent the CPU from dying and what not.

Actually is hitting that but still boosting, but its quite annoying

[Mateus Montemor]

1 hour ago, Streetguru said:

What kind of voltages is your motherboard throwing at your CPU?

Try manually controlling your frequency and voltage in the bios or just with Ryzen Master Should be able to do 4ghz at 1.2V I think, 1.3V was the max daily recommended voltage I saw somewhere due to the 7nm process.

I was able to CCX OC to 4.225 and 4.25 at 1.325V, because It was using more voltage than that, but It only got a bit better, like 88C

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Mateus Montemor said:

I was able to CCX OC to 4.225 and 4.25 at 1.325V, because It was using more voltage than that, but It only got a bit better, like 88C

Is the fan ramping up to 100%? I can't think of much else.

Could maybe settle in at 4100mhz 1.25V, or just leave it on auto potentially.

[Turtle Rig]

11 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Is the fan ramping up to 100%? I can't think of much else.

Could maybe settle in at 4100mhz 1.25V, or just leave it on auto potentially.

Do a basic noob overclock and see what your temps hit.  This way you will know to go further or to stabilize it.  Your temps at 1.30v should be in 80's c at most.  Your nearing 100 ya know.

[WoodenMarker]

Are you using default motherboard settings?

What rpm are your fans running at?

[Mateus Montemor]

12 hours ago, WoodenMarker said:

Are you using default motherboard settings?

What rpm are your fans running at?

ALL default, except XMP on memories

[kol]

Is PBO enabled in the BIOS? If so, disable it and re run the benchmarks.

[bowrilla]

Have you checked all the voltages? Which case do you have, is it the Thermaltake in your sig? What's the overall colling setup in it? Is there enough airflow? Did you plug the CPU fan into the correct socket? Are those fans ramping up? With which program are you checking the temps? Does the cooler gets actually hot?

[Mateus Montemor]

5 hours ago, kol said:

Is PBO enabled in the BIOS? If so, disable it and re run the benchmarks.

will try that

[Mateus Montemor]

1 hour ago, bowrilla said:

Have you checked all the voltages? Which case do you have, is it the Thermaltake in your sig? What's the overall colling setup in it? Is there enough airflow? Did you plug the CPU fan into the correct socket? Are those fans ramping up? With which program are you checking the temps? Does the cooler gets actually hot?

Voltages high like all ryzen 3000, but not getting close to all review temps, my pc is the on the signature, enough airflow i believe and all fans on and during stress teste the noctua one hits 1500 rpm, its maximum, already try different programs like aida,hwinfo and ryzen master itself

[bowrilla]

8 minutes ago, Mateus Montemor said:

Voltages high like all ryzen 3000, but not getting close to all review temps, my pc is the on the signature, enough airflow i believe and all fans on and during stress teste the noctua one hits 1500 rpm, its maximum, already try different programs like aida,hwinfo and ryzen master itself

That still leaves the question of your cooling setup: how many fans, where located, which are intake, which are exhaust? Also, does the cooler get hot? Some IHS both from Intel and AMD can come with a terrible curvature that severely impedes cooling.

[Mateus Montemor]

49 minutes ago, bowrilla said:

That still leaves the question of your cooling setup: how many fans, where located, which are intake, which are exhaust? Also, does the cooler get hot? Some IHS both from Intel and AMD can come with a terrible curvature that severely impedes cooling.

2x200 in front (intake) 1x120 exhaust in the back, positive pressure, gpu doesnt go over 65C, for the cooler getting hot ima have to test it

[bowrilla]

14 minutes ago, Mateus Montemor said:

2x200 in front (intake) 1x120 exhaust in the back, positive pressure, gpu doesnt go over 65C, for the cooler getting hot ima have to test it

Well, those 200mm case fans are usually not the best but still, since there's little restriction this should be sufficient. I suppose the case temps are reasonable. The issue with air coolers is always that they directly heat up the case. That means you need a lot of airflow. Two 140 fans on the top wouldn't hurt, though 94°C peaks during Aida64 is too much for this cooler even though it's a single fan slim design tower - it still officially supports the 3700X. Why did you choose this cooler by the way? Did you stumble upon some clearance issues? Since the 3700X runs hot I would have slapped the biggest air cooler on it I could fit lilke the Noctua NH-D15 or the beQuiet Dark Rock Pro 4.

 

Anyways, you've mentioned, that you already reapplied the paste? Did it spread evenly over the whole IHS? Did you reset your BIOS to defaults? Are you running the latest BIOS? Please check if the bottom part of your cooler around the heatpipes gets hot when your CPU runs the stress test. Are your case fans running fast enough? What are your case temps? HWInfo64 should give you accurate readings of all your temps and voltages. If your case temps are rising too high your air cooler won't be able to do its job.