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Jrcisme

In my current build my specs are

CPU: Intel Core I7-6700 CPU @ 3.40 ghz
GPU: GTX 1080 ti
Motherboard: H170 Pro gaming motherboard
Memory: 16gb DDR4 RAM

My overall question is, I feel like i'm not getting enough performance based from my specs. In video games I often fluctuate frame rates. Is my GPU possibly being bottle necked by my CPU? I play fortnite and csgo heavily, I understand these are cpu intensive games but I struggle to even break 200 frames at times and these frames fluctuate heavily dropping under 70 at times.

I'm stuck in a predicament. I feel as if a gtx 1080ti is a little overkill for gaming at 1920 x 1080 at 144hz. So would you advise selling it for a cheaper GPU, or on the other hand keep the 1080ti and just upgrade the CPU instead.

I'm open to any suggestion or input thank you for taking your time to read my issue

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If you have DDR4 2133 it might be holding you back

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

If you have DDR4 2133 it might be holding you back

What type of ram would you recommend getting for this build?

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11 minutes ago, Jrcisme said:

What type of ram would you recommend getting for this build?

2666 might help a lot, and I believe that's the max supported speed for h170 xmp profiles

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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Turn up the ram and get a much better cpu. 

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If you really want to fix the stuttering while having room for future upgrades, get a B450 motherboard, any Ryzen 2nd or 3rd gen CPU with at least 8 threads, and 16GB+ of 3200MHz RAM in 2 or 4 sticks.

CPURyzen 7 5800X Cooler: Arctic Liquid Freezer II 120mm AIO with push-pull Arctic P12 PWM fans RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 4x8GB 3600 16-16-16-30

MotherboardASRock X570M Pro4 GPUASRock RX 5700 XT Reference with Eiswolf GPX-Pro 240 AIO Case: Antec P5 PSU: Rosewill Capstone 750M

Monitor: ASUS ROG Strix XG32VC Case Fans: 2x Arctic P12 PWM Storage: HP EX950 1TB NVMe, Mushkin Pilot-E 1TB NVMe, 2x Constellation ES 2TB in RAID1

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On 9/24/2019 at 5:23 PM, Fasauceome said:

2666 might help a lot, and I believe that's the max supported speed for h170 xmp profiles

Got 16gb of DDR4 2133, so I probably end up upgrading the ram but how much of a difference will i notice if I upgrade to 2666

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19 minutes ago, Jrcisme said:

Got 16gb of DDR4 2133, so I probably end up upgrading the ram but how much of a difference will i notice if I upgrade to 2666

for the high refresh rate you're targeting, it would make a large difference, most notably bringing up your lows

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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3 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

for the high refresh rate you're targeting, it would make a large difference, most notably bringing up your lows

But I'm not sure that my motherboard supports speeds over 2133. 

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9 minutes ago, Jrcisme said:

But I'm not sure that my motherboard supports speeds over 2133. 

well it only officially supports 2133 on the spec sheet. I just got an H170 board myself for a side build so I'll have to find out with the 2400 kit I got.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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8 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

well it only officially supports 2133 on the spec sheet. I just got an H170 board myself for a side build so I'll have to find out with the 2400 kit I got.

So i guess if it doesn't work would the next play be to get a new motherboard that supports higher memory speeds

 

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9 minutes ago, Jrcisme said:

So i guess if it doesn't work would the next play be to get a new motherboard that supports higher memory speeds

 

At that point you should be investing in a new platform. Wouldn't really be worth it to get a Z170 board.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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The easiest way to go here is ditching the CPU Mobo and RAM you have today for new stuff which is likely going to be expensive...

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On 9/24/2019 at 4:47 PM, Jrcisme said:

I understand these are cpu intensive games but I struggle to even break 200 frames at times and these frames fluctuate heavily dropping under 70 at times.

Try locking your FPS to 144 or lower and crank up the detail settings and see if that helps. Here is an example:

I was trying to get the best performance possible in Forza Motorsport 7 and in the benchmark I my lows were in the 70s with a mix of low, dynamic and high detail settings, so, I cranked every thing up to high with x2 msaa and motion blur turned off and my lows were now in the low 90s((I think 91 if I remember). Also locking the frame rate to something lower helps with the fluctuating FPS.  I hope this helps.

Gaming With a 4:3 CRT

System specs below

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X with a Noctua NH-U9S cooler 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 Aorus M (Because it was cheap)
RAM: 32GB (4 x 8GB) Corsair Vengance LPX 3200Mhz CL16
GPU: EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC Blower Card
HDD: 7200RPM TOSHIBA DT01ACA100 1TB, External HDD: 5400RPM 2TB WD My Passport
SSD: 1tb Samsung 970 evo m.2 nvme
PSU: Corsair CX650M
Displays: ViewSonic VA2012WB LCD 1680x1050p @ 75Hz
Gateway VX920 CRT: 1920x1440@65Hz, 1600x1200@75Hz, 1200x900@100Hz, 960x720@125Hz
Gateway VX900 CRT: 1920x1440@64Hz, 1600x1200@75Hz, 1200x900@100Hz, 960x720@120Hz (Can be pushed to 175Hz)
 
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1 hour ago, MadAnt250 said:

Try locking your FPS to 144 or lower and crank up the detail settings and see if that helps. Here is an example:

I was trying to get the best performance possible in Forza Motorsport 7 and in the benchmark I my lows were in the 70s with a mix of low, dynamic and high detail settings, so, I cranked every thing up to high with x2 msaa and motion blur turned off and my lows were now in the low 90s((I think 91 if I remember). Also locking the frame rate to something lower helps with the fluctuating FPS.  I hope this helps.

Understandable, but I play games like fortnite and csgo and playing with higher video settings isn't really the best play. But i'll try limiting the fps 

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3 hours ago, Princess Luna said:

The easiest way to go here is ditching the CPU Mobo and RAM you have today for new stuff which is likely going to be expensive...

I'm a broke college student, so replacing everything isn't the best financial decision. Looking for a somewhat inexpensive way to fix this issue

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1 hour ago, Jrcisme said:

I'm a broke college student, so replacing everything isn't the best financial decision. Looking for a somewhat inexpensive way to fix this issue

There is no need to replace everything, your system is still more than capable.

Gaming With a 4:3 CRT

System specs below

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X with a Noctua NH-U9S cooler 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 Aorus M (Because it was cheap)
RAM: 32GB (4 x 8GB) Corsair Vengance LPX 3200Mhz CL16
GPU: EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC Blower Card
HDD: 7200RPM TOSHIBA DT01ACA100 1TB, External HDD: 5400RPM 2TB WD My Passport
SSD: 1tb Samsung 970 evo m.2 nvme
PSU: Corsair CX650M
Displays: ViewSonic VA2012WB LCD 1680x1050p @ 75Hz
Gateway VX920 CRT: 1920x1440@65Hz, 1600x1200@75Hz, 1200x900@100Hz, 960x720@125Hz
Gateway VX900 CRT: 1920x1440@64Hz, 1600x1200@75Hz, 1200x900@100Hz, 960x720@120Hz (Can be pushed to 175Hz)
 
Keyboard: Thermaltake eSPORTS MEKA PRO with Cherry MX Red switches
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On 9/24/2019 at 4:47 PM, Jrcisme said:

I'm open to any suggestion or input thank you for taking your time to read my issue

Dude, I game at 1440p on a 144 Hz monitor using a 6th gen i5 clocked at 3.0 GHz using just 16GB of DDR4 2133 RAM paired with a 1070 and get excellent fps just by customizing the hell out of the graphic settings. Your PC is fine and will continue to be for the next half decade.

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Update, I got my Asus H170M plus and it had an XMP profile to run my memory at 2400MHz

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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On 9/25/2019 at 5:57 AM, BTGbullseye said:

If you really want to fix the stuttering while having room for future upgrades, get a B450 motherboard, any Ryzen 2nd or 3rd gen CPU with at least 8 threads, and 16GB+ of 3200MHz RAM in 2 or 4 sticks.

Think I might get a new motherboard that supports my current cpu as well as higher memory speeds. Hopefully i'll see a noticeable change 

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4 hours ago, Jrcisme said:

Think I might get a new motherboard that supports my current cpu as well as higher memory speeds. Hopefully i'll see a noticeable change 

That's very unlikely to actually help much.

CPURyzen 7 5800X Cooler: Arctic Liquid Freezer II 120mm AIO with push-pull Arctic P12 PWM fans RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 4x8GB 3600 16-16-16-30

MotherboardASRock X570M Pro4 GPUASRock RX 5700 XT Reference with Eiswolf GPX-Pro 240 AIO Case: Antec P5 PSU: Rosewill Capstone 750M

Monitor: ASUS ROG Strix XG32VC Case Fans: 2x Arctic P12 PWM Storage: HP EX950 1TB NVMe, Mushkin Pilot-E 1TB NVMe, 2x Constellation ES 2TB in RAID1

https://hwbot.org/submission/4497882_btgbullseye_gpupi_v3.3___32b_radeon_rx_5700_xt_13min_37sec_848ms

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On 10/24/2019 at 8:05 PM, BTGbullseye said:

That's very unlikely to actually help much.

Depends on the game of course...

 

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I wouldn’t waste money on a new board for “better” ram and keep that cpu. That would be pointless as that card needs a better cpu, period. 

Main RIg Corsair Air 540, I7 9900k, ASUS ROG Maximus XI Hero, G.Skill Ripjaws 3600 32GB, 3090FE, EVGA 1000G5, Acer Nitro XZ3 2560 x 1440@240hz 

 

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3 hours ago, Intransigent said:

Depends on the game of course...

 

That assumes that the RAM is the bottleneck though, but in this case the CPU is the limiting factor.

CPURyzen 7 5800X Cooler: Arctic Liquid Freezer II 120mm AIO with push-pull Arctic P12 PWM fans RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 4x8GB 3600 16-16-16-30

MotherboardASRock X570M Pro4 GPUASRock RX 5700 XT Reference with Eiswolf GPX-Pro 240 AIO Case: Antec P5 PSU: Rosewill Capstone 750M

Monitor: ASUS ROG Strix XG32VC Case Fans: 2x Arctic P12 PWM Storage: HP EX950 1TB NVMe, Mushkin Pilot-E 1TB NVMe, 2x Constellation ES 2TB in RAID1

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