AMD’s Mantle benchmarked

[Ahsan]

"AMD’s Mantle benchmarked: The biggest innovation in gaming since DirectX 9"

 

 

 

 

AMD’s Mantle is the first new consumer graphics API to launch in over a decade and its potential impact on the gaming and CPU markets is enormous. Last week, we covered AMD’s performance claims for Mantle – today, we’re diving in with our own test results. We’ve benchmarked Mantle on a range of graphics cards and CPUs, from Kabini at the low-end to the Intel Core i7-4770K...

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http://goo.gl/zxkoEU

 

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WHAT YALL THINK?

[UnknownEngineer]

I have reason to believe this is a re-post, someone correct me if i am wrong.

[IAmSkip]

Nice review, now we wait till games like BF4 will actually run anything with a hint of stability (and AMD releases optimised drivers for HD 7000 series etc).

[Ahsan]

I have reason to believe this is a re-post, someone correct me if i am wrong.

This article was released today I think, so I dont think it is a re-post

[ViruZ_HUN]

repost but thx anyway OP, someone who dont know about the other topic about this may see this!

[Ahsan]

Nice review, now we wait till games like BF4 will actually run anything with a hint of stability (and AMD releases optimised drivers for HD 7000 series etc).

I updated it, ket's just wait til Linus' review shall we

[jdrage97]

love mantle 

[Mo5]

1st bench: A10-7850K outperforming a GTX770. Such win!

[Imabigmac]

I don't believe these at all, having tested it myself.

[Scionyde]

1st bench: A10-7850K outperforming a GTX770. Such win!

 

I have no doubt that Mantle would be very impressive in a game like StarSwarm, but the fact that an i7-3930k with a GTX 770 can't crack 10 fps seems kind of unusual to me.

[IAmSkip]

I don't believe these at all, having tested it myself.

It really comes down to your pc configuration, and currently what GPU you are using (most GCN gpu's aren't optimised for mantle yet, as you see on the last page the 260x and 270x have barely a 1fps improvement with mantle currently).

[Mo5]

I have no doubt that Mantle would be very impressive in a game like StarSwarm, but the fact that an i7-3930k with a GTX 770 can't crack 10 fps seems kind of unusual to me.

there's probably a good explanation for that...

[Guest GRRigger]

Can you possibly imagine Nvidia to make their own low level api? No. But they could adopt mantle.

 

I am really looking forward what will happen with GPU prices. Selling low end cards for 200 bucks and all...800 for high end... miners...nvidia prices...rebadges...TSMC 28nm...

[Warcony]

I have no doubt that Mantle would be very impressive in a game like StarSwarm, but the fact that an i7-3930k with a GTX 770 can't crack 10 fps seems kind of unusual to me.

 

Agreed.  Seems odd, driver related perhaps?

[Picklenuttz]

Benchmarks are all fine and dandy to show, but what really matters is how it performs on your system.

[AndrewR]

Star Swarm benchmark is already working well already on my to-be-overclocked Intel® Core i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz, with R9 280x (Asus Direct CU-II).   Benchmarked at Ultra 1080p "Follow Scenario"

 

Just waiting to upgrade my OCZ 600W psu before I dare start pushing my system again.

 

DirectX:

== Results ================================================
Test Duration:            360 Seconds
Total Frames:            10944

Average FPS:            30.40
Average Unit Count:        3880
Maximum Unit Count:        5439
Average Batches/MS:        605.86
Maximum Batches/MS:        1400.10
Average Batch Count:        21488
Maximum Batch Count:        99887
===========================================================

 

Mantle:

== Results ================================================
Test Duration:            360 Seconds
Total Frames:            17946

Average FPS:            49.85
Average Unit Count:        4522
Maximum Unit Count:        5717
Average Batches/MS:        1013.13
Maximum Batches/MS:        2553.07
Average Batch Count:        22792
Maximum Batch Count:        111758
===========================================================

 

Andrew

[JAW96]

I have no doubt that Mantle would be very impressive in a game like StarSwarm, but the fact that an i7-3930k with a GTX 770 can't crack 10 fps seems kind of unusual to me.

with star swarm it is the number of draw calls that wreck the fps, kinda nitrous's way of pointing out the flaw in D3D, and I found looking at others benchmarks gpu doesn't matter much.

[Scionyde]

with star swarm it is the number of draw calls that wreck the fps, kinda nitrous's way of pointing out the flaw in D3D, and I found looking at others benchmarks gpu doesn't matter much.

 

I suppose, but the CPU they used isn't particularly weak either. I know this is a stress test on an unfinished game, but I'm hoping/assuming this is just some sort of marketing thing where they're trying to extole the virtues of Mantle rather than be truly indicative of the final experience. If two-thirds of their potential market is going to have such a drastically weaker experience, that could seriously affect their sales (I'm assuming two-thirds because AMD has <40% market share, and even then not all AMD users will have cards at 7000 series and above).

[JAW96]

I suppose, but the CPU they used isn't particularly weak either. I know this is a stress test on an unfinished game, but I'm hoping/assuming this is just some sort of marketing thing where they're trying to extole the virtues of Mantle rather than be truly indicative of the final experience. If two-thirds of their potential market is going to have such a drastically weaker experience, that could seriously affect their sales (I'm assuming two-thirds because AMD has <40% market share, and even then not all AMD users will have cards at 7000 series and above).

well that is the thing sure it is a powerful cpu, but it is sitting around doing nothing besides waiting for D3D for some work, so it's not the CPU's issue just D3D

[BallaTheFeared]

Works fine in DX11.

Oxide GamesStar Swarm Stress Test - ©2013C:\Users\BallaTheFeared\Documents\Star Swarm\Output_14_02_02_2213.txtVersion 1.0002/02/2014 22:13============================================================= Hardware Configuration =================================GPU:		NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780CPU:		GenuineIntel		Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4670K CPU @ 3.40GHzPhysical Cores:			4Logical Cores:			4Physical Memory: 		8531136512Allocatable Memory:		8796092891136============================================================= Configuration ==========================================API:				DirectXScenario:			ScenarioFollow.csvUser Input:			DisabledResolution:			1920x1080Fullscreen:			TrueGameCore Update:		16.6 msBloom Quality:			HighPointLight Quality:		HighToneCurve Quality:		HighGlare Overdraw:			16Shading Samples: 		64Shade Quality:			MidDeferred Contexts:		EnabledTemporal AA Duration:		16Temporal AA Time Slice:		2Detailed Frame Info:		Off============================================================= Results ================================================Test Duration:			360 SecondsTotal Frames:			18636Average FPS:			51.76Average Unit Count:		4221Maximum Unit Count:		5492Average Batches/MS:		1292.31Maximum Batches/MS:		5703.76Average Batch Count:		23597Maximum Batch Count:		108048===========================================================

We don't really need Mantle, we need devs to actually properly code DX11.

[SlaughterSmurf]

The 280x benchmark  is false.THERE IS 0 INCREASE OF FRAME RATE ON MY 7970 IN BF4!!!!

[AndrewR]

Works fine in DX11. We don't really need Mantle, we need devs to actually properly code DX11.

What were your results on Ultra settings?

Andrew

[The Benjamins]

Did any one else notice how the A10-7950k APU ONLY hit 30+ FPS in BF4 on ultra at 1920x1080, that is amazing and mantle gave it 9% improvement.

[BallaTheFeared]

What were your results on Ultra settings?

Andrew

There is no Ultra, only Extreme which is what those results are from.

[TB-303]

The 280x benchmark  is false.THERE IS 0 INCREASE OF FRAME RATE ON MY 7970 IN BF4!!!!

Did you install the 14.1 driver, then switch it from Direct X to Mantle in the graphics settings?

 

Just checking because I have a big improvement using 280x