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The Thicc II has probably the worst design when it comes to the power delivery (VRM-s including power phases, capacitors, layout), a lot worse than the reference card but not so bad that it would prevent the card from being recommended (let's just say it does its job). It's probably the cheapest non-refference to make but it holds a price.

 

The PowerColor Red Devil, on the other hand, uses a doubled 5-phase VRM with good enough components (almost a 10-phase) which makes it the second best RX 5700XT choice on the market - right after the Asus ROG Strix.

 

MSI Evoke, Sapphire Pulse and Gigabyte Gaming OC are rather similar to the Thicc II but with some small diferences in design like usoing better mosfets or capacitors.

But the Evoke is bugged, bad thermal pad sizes and palcements make it hot and loud.

 

No true info on Sapphire Nitro+ and MSI Gaming X yet.

Hey lads/ladies,

 

I am wondering how the Thicc II holds up against the PC Red Dragon. I know the 'Thicc' series has a good track record but tech companies are tech companies (*ahem* MSI). Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.

 

Loving the forum,

JF23 

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19 minutes ago, JOEYFLY23 said:

I am wondering how the Thicc II holds up against the PC Red Dragon.

they all cool well enough while being quiet, but I would recommend sapphire pulse

 

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/xfx_radeon_rx_5700_xt_thicc_ii_ultra_review,28.html

 

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3498-sapphire-rx-5700-xt-pulse-review

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/powercolor-radeon-rx-5700-xt-red-devil/

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The Thicc II has probably the worst design when it comes to the power delivery (VRM-s including power phases, capacitors, layout), a lot worse than the reference card but not so bad that it would prevent the card from being recommended (let's just say it does its job). It's probably the cheapest non-refference to make but it holds a price.

 

The PowerColor Red Devil, on the other hand, uses a doubled 5-phase VRM with good enough components (almost a 10-phase) which makes it the second best RX 5700XT choice on the market - right after the Asus ROG Strix.

 

MSI Evoke, Sapphire Pulse and Gigabyte Gaming OC are rather similar to the Thicc II but with some small diferences in design like usoing better mosfets or capacitors.

But the Evoke is bugged, bad thermal pad sizes and palcements make it hot and loud.

 

No true info on Sapphire Nitro+ and MSI Gaming X yet.

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1 hour ago, JOEYFLY23 said:

Hey lads/ladies,

 

I am wondering how the Thicc II holds up against the PC Red Dragon. I know the 'Thicc' series has a good track record but tech companies are tech companies (*ahem* MSI). Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.

 

Loving the forum,

JF23 

None of them significantly perform higher or lower than another. 

 

Both the sapphire and xfx have easily replaceable fans. 

 

Id look into who has he better customer support. 

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Thank you guys so much for the information. I think I'll just wait for the Red Dragon to re-stock then. Cheers!

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On 9/16/2019 at 7:43 PM, JOEYFLY23 said:

Thank you guys so much for the information. I think I'll just wait for the Red Dragon to re-stock then. Cheers!

There's a review on Gamersnexus bettwen Red Dragon and Pulse and Red Dragon comes ahead!

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And still nobody mentions the ASRock Challenger D... Similar performance to all the rest, similar cooling, on the low end of the AIB pricing, and it has an extra year on the warranty.

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1 minute ago, BTGbullseye said:

And still nobody mentions the ASRock Challenger D... Similar performance to all the rest, similar cooling, on the low end of the AIB pricing, and it has an extra year on the warranty.

I saw a review on it , and concluded that pulse is better

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11 minutes ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

I saw a review on it , and concluded that pulse is better

What review?

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1 hour ago, BTGbullseye said:

What review?

the one I read from youtube for non-xt, so xt is expected to be hotter?

 

 

and for 5700xt:

79C & 50.5db noise...no thx

 

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On 9/16/2019 at 1:35 AM, 191x7 said:

The Thicc II has probably the worst design when it comes to the power delivery (VRM-s including power phases, capacitors, layout), a lot worse than the reference card but not so bad that it would prevent the card from being recommended (let's just say it does its job). It's probably the cheapest non-refference to make but it holds a price.

 

The PowerColor Red Devil, on the other hand, uses a doubled 5-phase VRM with good enough components (almost a 10-phase) which makes it the second best RX 5700XT choice on the market - right after the Asus ROG Strix.

 

MSI Evoke, Sapphire Pulse and Gigabyte Gaming OC are rather similar to the Thicc II but with some small diferences in design like usoing better mosfets or capacitors.

But the Evoke is bugged, bad thermal pad sizes and palcements make it hot and loud.

 

No true info on Sapphire Nitro+ and MSI Gaming X yet.

Sapphire nitro should be amazing Sapphire is the golden standard for amd in my opinion same as powercolor 

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3 hours ago, Pauleft said:

Sapphire nitro should be amazing Sapphire is the golden standard for amd in my opinion same as powercolor 

Turns out it's quite close to the Red Devil from Powercolor (Sapphire has better cooling but worse pcb components), worse than Asus Strix which is still the best.

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3 hours ago, 191x7 said:

Turns out it's quite close to the Red Devil from Powercolor (Sapphire has better cooling but worse pcb components), worse than Asus Strix which is still the best.

As well, PowerColor Red Devil is quieter... thats why has slightly higher temps.

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23 hours ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

the one I read from youtube for non-xt, so xt is expected to be hotter?

 

and for 5700xt:

79C & 50.5db noise...no thx

5700 is not comparable, don't make the mistake of assuming it is. As for the second, that was exclusively at stock settings, which is designed for performance, not preventing mild noise. Try setting it to something quiet, and see how hot it gets first. Also, you didn't pay very close attention to the video, since it clearly said that under synthetic load it only got to 59°c and 50.5db. Under gaming loads it barely broke 40°c. It has plenty of fan speed (and therefore noise) to spare.

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