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Sik2JZ
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At what prices? The 2600x and 3600 both are worth it for the price they usually retail for (like 160 for the 2600x and 200 for the 3600). I'd skip the 3600x though, it usually costs 50 dollars more than the 3600 and basically just comes with a better cooler

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well with X370 the max i would go with is 2600x because that's a first gen chipset, iirc

 

but ignoring the mobo, i'd get a 3600 non x

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Just now, Epimetheus said:

At what prices? The 2600x and 3600 both are worth it for the price they usually retail for (like 160 for the 2600x and 200 for the 3600). I'd skip the 3600x though, it usually costs 50 dollars more than the 3600 and basically just comes with a better cooler

It's not about the prices.. I am ready to give as much money as possible, as long as it's worth it.. And I will probably try to overclock later when I get the 1080. I wanna know if it's worth it the bonus 50-60$ for the 3600x.

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3600, better potential in gaming.

Just now, Sik2JZ said:

it the bonus 50-60$ for the 3600x.

No. You can easily get a superior cooler for 50-60$, which is what differs between the 3600 and 3600x. The actual operating frequency gap is minor.

 

5 minutes ago, Sik2JZ said:

I bought a Asrock X370 Pro4

shouldnt have done that

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

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1 minute ago, Gegger said:

well with X370 the max i would go with is 2600x because that's a first gen chipset, iirc

 

but ignoring the mobo, i'd get a 3600 non x

@Gegger the mobo itself comes ready for ryzen 2, and when buying I ordered it with a bios update.. not sure which one they put tho. But I still got a friend that has a ryzen 5 1500x, I think he will let me use his' to update my BIOS.

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What about a B450 board with a 3600 on it, thats probably the best you can get right now, something like a MSI B450 Pro Carbon or Tomahawk, but if you plan to use a 3700X in the futur i would get a X470

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

3600, better potential in gaming.

No. You can easily get a superior cooler for 50-60$, which is what differs between the 3600 and 3600x. The actual operating frequency gap is minor.

 

shouldnt have done that

@Jurrunio I will probably buy the Freezer 34 esports duo, I see the temperatures are pretty nice for the pricetag it has.

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1 minute ago, Sik2JZ said:

@Gegger the mobo itself comes ready for ryzen 2, and when buying I ordered it with a bios update.. not sure which one they put tho. But I still got a friend that has a ryzen 5 1500x, I think he will let me use his' to update my BIOS.

i know that you are perfectly capable of running 2nd or 3rd gen, but if you are doing any moderate overclocking, i'd get another board

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1 minute ago, Gegger said:

i know that you are perfectly capable of running 2nd or 3rd gen, but if you are doing any moderate overclocking, i'd get another board

The ryzen 3000 lineup isn't a good overclocker in the traditional way. Won't be much of a problem

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I think then you should get the ryzen 5 3600, the price to performance is superior to the 2600x and will be an incredible performer. Definitely make sure that your friend will lend you the cpu for the bios update though, it most probably won't come ready out of the box for third gen ryzen

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8 minutes ago, Gegger said:

i know that you are perfectly capable of running 2nd or 3rd gen, but if you are doing any moderate overclocking, i'd get another board

 

11 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

shouldnt have done that

The x370 pro4 and b450 pro4 are basically the same motherboard, and the b450 pro4 is definitely fine for overclocking a 6 core. there are some countries I've seen where it's actually cheaper than the b450 pro4 so it's a great buy

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30 minutes ago, Sik2JZ said:

Hey guys I have a question.. I currently have an i5 4590(which I am selling tomorrow) and a RX580 8 GB. I bought a Asrock X370 Pro4 Motherboard and I am looking for Ryzen 5 2600x/3600/3600x .. Which one should I buy? BTW I will upgrade to 1080 later from the RX580.

A 2600 and 2600x would run a  GTX1080 perfectly fine and are an absolute bargain now since the 3rd gen Ryzens have come out. I have a 2400g and now wish I waited to get a 2600 instead. 3600's are quite an upgrade though, if you can afford the extra $50.

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3 hours ago, Fasauceome said:

 

The x370 pro4 and b450 pro4 are basically the same motherboard, and the b450 pro4 is definitely fine for overclocking a 6 core. there are some countries I've seen where it's actually cheaper than the b450 pro4 so it's a great buy

OP never mentioned how much he paid for it. Buying boards first does restrict CPU choice tho that's why I say he shouldnt have done it.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

OP never mentioned how much he paid for it. Buying boards first does restrict CPU choice tho that's why I say he shouldnt have done it.

@Jurrunio 96$.. And I knew I wanted a ryzen already, thats why I bought this one, but when I bought it the 3rd gen did not come out yet...

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1 minute ago, Sik2JZ said:

@Jurrunio 96$.. And I knew I wanted a ryzen already, thats why I bought this one, but when I bought it the 3rd gen did not come out yet...

I hope that's not in USD, it's a $60-70 board.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Prices in Bulgaria are way different.

more acceptable then

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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I am curious to see the success of an X370 board and 3rd gen Ryzen.

 

Some of us guys that went high end with X370 back in 2017 are eagerly awaiting to see the performance results :).

 

I am pretty confident my X370 Strix could handle a 3900X or even a 3950X.

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