PC needs serveral boots before hitting windows

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Okay so I changed my MOBO, CPU and RAM recently and got all drivers. When windows is booted up all works perfectly fine and perfect FPS in games. Board is MSI B450 Gaming plus, CPU is Ryzen 5 3600 and RAM is DDR4 Corsair DDR4 RGB.

 

But when I start the computer it needs to be start 2 or 3 or even 4 times to boot into windwos. I press the button. all the RGB and LEDs light up to default except the keyboard and mouse and USB things and no display. Then I keep power button held down and restart it sometimes it will work into windows sometimes same thing.

 

Any idea what the hell the issue might be?

[Streetguru]

6 minutes ago, TheMidnightNarwhal said:

 

Did you reinstall windows with the new parts?

Did you do something to your RAM? It might be trying to do some RAM training.

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Just now, Streetguru said:

Did you reinstall windows with the new parts?

Did you do something to your RAM? It might be trying to do some RAM training.

No I haven't since I figured it boots ok I didn't really have to do anything? For the RAM I only activate the A-XMP profile.

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, TheMidnightNarwhal said:

No I haven't since I figured it boots ok I didn't really have to do anything? For the RAM I only activate the A-XMP profile.

Then set your bios to the default and reinstall windows

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

32 minutes ago, TheMidnightNarwhal said:

No I haven't since I figured it boots ok I didn't really have to do anything? For the RAM I only activate the A-XMP profile.

Rule number 1 when upgrading your platform. Do a reinstall of Windows. You'll save yourself the headache down the road. 

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Then set your bios to the default and reinstall windows

 

Just now, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

Rule number of when upgrading your platform. Do a reinstall of Windows. You'll save yourself the headache down the road. 

 

But why? Doesn't the BIOS just need to know what drive has the bootloader and to load on what drive. If I point it to the right one how is a windows re-install going to fix things pre-windows or even pre-bios.

[Turtle Rig]

13 minutes ago, TheMidnightNarwhal said:

Okay so I changed my MOBO, CPU and RAM recently and got all drivers. When windows is booted up all works perfectly fine and perfect FPS in games.

 

But when I start the computer it needs to be start 2 or 3 or even 4 times to boot into windwos. I press the button. all the RGB and LEDs light up to default except the keyboard and mouse and USB things and no display. Then I keep power button held down and restart it sometimes it will work into windows sometimes same thing.

 

Any idea what the hell the issue might be?

Possibly the PSU is having some issues.  That is what I can come up with initially.

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

1 minute ago, Turtle Rig said:

Possibly the PSU is having some issues.  That is what I can come up with initially.

Also another thing I want to add when my PC is off if I for example touch a key on my keyboard the KB lights up. I remember I had this annoying thing on a ASUS board and there was a setting in BIOS to deactivate that not sure what the setting would be on MSI.

[Turtle Rig]

21 minutes ago, TheMidnightNarwhal said:

Also another thing I want to add when my PC is off if I for example touch a key on my keyboard the KB lights up. I remember I had this annoying thing on a ASUS board and there was a setting in BIOS to deactivate that not sure what the setting would be on MSI.

I doubt ASUS has it try a BIOS upgrade if you can.

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

1 minute ago, Turtle Rig said:

I doubt ASUS has it try a BIOS upgrade if you can.

Yes my old board was an ASUS and had that setting. My board already has the most recent BIOS to be able to run the Ryzen 3600 CPUs.

[nick name]

Any chance you want to tell us what your components are to give us a real chance at helping here?

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

2 minutes ago, nick name said:

Any chance you want to tell us what your components are to give us a real chance at helping here?

 

Wow my bad that completely went over my head shoud've listed. 

 

Board is MSI B450 Gaming plus, CPU is Ryzen 5 3600 and RAM is DDR4 Corsair DDR4 RGB.

[nick name]

My first thought is that it's memory training, but your explanation of the observed behavior isn't great.  

 

Can you take another stab at describing the behavior you're seeing please.   

[Turtle Rig]

He would be good to go with a BIOS update but ha has the latest.. hmmmmm sighs...... You sure you cant find that option in BIOS ?

 

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

22 minutes ago, nick name said:

My first thought is that it's memory training, but your explanation of the observed behavior isn't great.  

 

Can you take another stab at describing the behavior you're seeing please.   

When I boot the PC, power light, h100i ledl ight fans everything seems to boot up fine except no display on screen. The KB and mouse do not light up. I must force shutdown the PC and restart it again maybe 1, 2 or 3 times, it's random, before it will eventually get display and boot fully up.

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

22 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

He would be good to go with a BIOS update but ha has the latest.. hmmmmm sighs...... You sure you cant find that option in BIOS ?

 

I haven't checked but that option I don't think is related to my issue, it was just a sidenote of something I noticed.

[nick name]

12 minutes ago, TheMidnightNarwhal said:

When I boot the PC, power light, h100i ledl ight fans everything seems to boot up fine except no display on screen. The KB and mouse do not light up. I must force shutdown the PC and restart it again maybe 1, 2 or 3 times, it's random, before it will eventually get display and boot fully up.

How long have you waited before forcing it?

[nick name]

Do you have any external drives or a phone connected?

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

2 minutes ago, nick name said:

How long have you waited before forcing it?

I waited a good 3-4 minutes and nothing.

 

 

What is connected is KB, mouse, my USB headset receiver and a BT receiver. Guess I could try some boots with nothing plugged in except kb and mouse.

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

On 9/8/2019 at 5:55 PM, nick name said:

Do you have any external drives or a phone connected?

 

Removed the USB BT adapter and PC boots like a charm now

[nick name]

2 hours ago, TheMidnightNarwhal said:

 

Removed the USB BT adapter and PC boots like a charm now

Hmmmm, wasn't expecting that to be the culprit.  

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

14 hours ago, nick name said:

Hmmmm, wasn't expecting that to be the culprit.  

Yeah me neither. That or one of my USB ports at the rear is fucky cause in the process I moved my KB mouse plugs. But hey it works now so.