What caused my RAM to become corrupted?

[AirlessMICRO]

Ryzen 5 2600

Asus Rog Strix B350-F

16GB (2x8) 3000 MHz Corsair Vengeance LPX

MSI GTX 1070Ti

1TB WD Blue SSD

 

I was running my 3000MHz RAM at 3200MHz for a few months and would frequently experience games crashing, or the whole system crashing, mostly during gaming. Sometimes the system would slow down significantly and produce a few beeps when just loading a simple program like a web browser, then would return to normal after a couple seconds. I didn't know what was causing this until I was running Memtest in preparation for using DRAM Calculator for Ryzen to figure out the highest frequency I could overclock my RAM to, and thus, CPU, and Memtest showed multiple errors. I ran it to 400% at 3200MHz and there were A LOT of errors. So I thought that maybe my motherboard wasn't good enough to overclock the RAM to 3200MHz (Even though the manual says it can) and that was causing system instability. So I changed the frequency to the stock 3000 MHz and ran Memtest again and there were less errors than before but still a lot. Then I ran Memtest to 400% on every frequency down to 2666MHz and there were still errors. So after some research I determined that my RAM must have been corrupted somehow, because that would explain the errors on every frequency. After more research I thought it might be possible that because my RAM was not optimized for Ryzen it became corrupted. Vengeance LPX is listed as being compatible with Ryzen 2nd gen but it is not optimized for it like some RAM is. But I can't find conclusive proof on this. It's a popular choice for RAM, and I've seen lots of people saying they are running it with no problem, even at the same frequencies I was. So right now I am just trying to figure out how this happened in the first place. If anyone has any insight on this or had experience with something similar your help would be appreciated.

 

Note: I know that motherboard won't be able to overclock the CPU that much or at all, but I did not know that when I built this PC because I didn't know much about overclocking. I plan on upgrading to an R5 3600 later this year, which will require faster RAM, which will require a new motherboard, so I will be replacing these parts anyway.

[XHT_001]

hear, to overclock lower speed RAM, you need a RAM Cooler, while you don't when you overclock the CPU memory clock using RAM faster then the CPU can use by default

 

geil turbulence II fit better on DDR4 then they did on DDR3, you can find them cheap on ebay, and just replace the fan's

[SpiralTTGL]

Just now, XHT_001 said:

hear, to overclock lower speed RAM, you need a RAM Cooler, while you don't when you overclock the CPU memory clock using RAM faster then the CPU can use by default

incorrect ram doesn't get hot the "cooler" is just to make your ram distinguishable for your brand instead of just having a bare pcb

[XHT_001]

4 minutes ago, SpiralTTGL said:

incorrect ram doesn't get hot the "cooler" is just to make your ram distinguishable for your brand instead of just having a bare pcb

of course it get's hot, running RAM and having no issue's is like nVME temperature problem's, more so when you have to turn up the voltage on the RAM to make it run at a faster speed with lower latency, the heatsinks on RAM isn't just for good looks

[191x7]

Did you set the 3000MHz using XMP (Asus calls it DOCP) or manually?

Try reseting your bios (clearning cmos) and retest then.

[XHT_001]

3 hours ago, WikiForce said:

stop spreading misinformation if you know nothing

obviously know more then you, take the heatsink's off of your ram which are there to spread the heat across a bigger surface to allow for better cooling, when things like game's are running and graphic card's are requesting texture's from virtual texture caches and using the 20+ Gb/s of bandwidth if a frame need's 1000 texture's as they arn't stored in VRAM, they will be taken from physical memory and things get hot

[XHT_001]

RAM with no heatskinks died with DDR1

[Dubba]

33 minutes ago, XHT_001 said:

RAM with no heatskinks died with DDR1

^lmao

 

4 hours ago, AirlessMICRO said:

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So I changed the frequency to the stock 3000 MHz and ran Memtest again and there were less errors than before but still a lot.

1. Did you buy the RAM new or second-hand?

2. How did you change back to stock frequency? Just thinking if all the other related settings are back to stock too. If you don't have tinkered in BIOS a lot, maybe worth a try to reset BIOS settings to defaults

[JabroniBaloney]

2 hours ago, XHT_001 said:

RAM with no heatskinks died with DDR1

G.Skill Aegis says what's up.

[nick name]

Which RAM slots are you using?

[XHT_001]

7 hours ago, JabroniBaloney said:

G.Skill Aegis says what's up.

they still have a heat spreader, and not bare chips and PCB

[AirlessMICRO]

7 hours ago, Dubba said:

^lmao

 

1. Did you buy the RAM new or second-hand?

2. How did you change back to stock frequency? Just thinking if all the other related settings are back to stock too. If you don't have tinkered in BIOS a lot, maybe worth a try to reset BIOS settings to defaults

I bought the RAM new and used BIOS to change the frequency. The BIOS was up to date at the time ( a few months ago) but there's probably a new version now that makes it compatible with Ryzen 3rd gen. I don't think this would solve any problems considering the RAM is already corrupt, and nothing will fix that. 

[AirlessMICRO]

I am using the recommended slots, A2 and B2.

[AirlessMICRO]

One thing I know for sure is that all this conversation about heatsinks is completely irrelevant. Any decent desktop RAM is going to have an adequate heatsink.

[AirlessMICRO]

13 hours ago, 191x7 said:

Did you set the 3000MHz using XMP (Asus calls it DOCP) or manually?

Try reseting your bios (clearning cmos) and retest then.

I set it manually. I'll try to use DOCP and see what speed it sets the RAM to. 

[WkdPaul]

10 hours ago, XHT_001 said:

RAM with no heatskinks died with DDR1

Then please explain ;

 

https://www.crucial.com/usa/en/ct51264bd160b

https://www.crucial.com/usa/en/ct8g4dfs8266

 

https://www.adata.com/us/DRAM-Modules/pc/d4/

https://www.adata.com/us/DRAM-Modules/pc/d4/

 

Seems like you're confusing aesthetic choices and actual need for an active cooler on RAM.

[XHT_001]

2 hours ago, wkdpaul said:

Then please explain ;

 

https://www.crucial.com/usa/en/ct51264bd160b

https://www.crucial.com/usa/en/ct8g4dfs8266

 

https://www.adata.com/us/DRAM-Modules/pc/d4/

https://www.adata.com/us/DRAM-Modules/pc/d4/

 

Seems like you're confusing aesthetic choices and actual need for an active cooler on RAM.

just cheap rubbish for servers, which would probably use a few 100,000RPM delta fans and be in an air condiftioned thermal controlled room

 

a server room is temerature controlled, and normal 15c

[WkdPaul]

17 hours ago, XHT_001 said:

just cheap rubbish for servers, which would probably use a few 100,000RPM delta fans and be in an air condiftioned thermal controlled room

 

a server room is temerature controlled, and normal 15c

Servers use ECC RAM, those aren't.

 

But I might be wrong, so please, educate me on server RAM and temperature control for server room.

[Lurick]

17 hours ago, XHT_001 said:

just cheap rubbish for servers, which would probably use a few 100,000RPM delta fans and be in an air condiftioned thermal controlled room

 

a server room is temerature controlled, and normal 15c

Please explain your thinking to Dell, HP, and every other OEM server manufacturer out there about how they are wrong because I'm sure they would love to know how they should put heatsinks on modules.

[XHT_001]

1 hour ago, wkdpaul said:

Servers use ECC RAM, those aren't.

 

But I might be wrong, so please, educate me on server RAM and temperature control for server room.

you don't need ECC for everything, ECC cost's extra money, a server room, would be hot without a controlled enviroment

 

 

nobody uses DELL's except america, or HP

 

there is a reason behind desktop memory ibeing called desktop memory, which come with heatsinks

[Lurick]

Just now, XHT_001 said:

you don't need ECC for everything, ECC cost's extrea money, a server room, would be hot without a controlled enviroment

 

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nobody uses DELL's except america, or HP

Well then you clearly have no idea what servers are used for any why ECC is important for 99% of use cases and why they all come with ECC memory by default!

You also have no clue about the server market in general if you can't even post a non-stock photo, lol

Dell literally owns ~25% of the worldwide server market with HP coming in second

[XHT_001]

1 minute ago, Lurick said:

Well then you clearly have no idea what servers are used for any why ECC is important for 99% of use cases and why they all come with ECC memory by default!

You also have no clue about the server market in general if you can't even post a non-stock photo, lol

Dell literally owns ~25% of the worldwide server market with HP coming in second

they did before cloud's came along and super computer's became abit cheaper, AMD and EPYC own the other 75%, which is how they survived decades of not making any money from the desktop market

[Lurick]

Just now, XHT_001 said:

they did before cloud's came along and super computer's became abit cheaper, AMD and EPYC own the other 75%, which is how they survived decades of not making any money from the desktop market

What are you even pulling this bullcrap from dude?

Intel has and is the dominant player in the server space. AMD has maybe 3% of the worldwide server market, Intel holds like 95%

AMD market share breakdown:

[XHT_001]

5 minutes ago, Lurick said:

What are you even pulling this bullcrap from dude?

Intel has and is the dominant player in the server space. AMD has maybe 3% of the worldwide server market, Intel holds like 95%

AMD market share breakdown:

government's, CERN, and classified research bases and ship's etc using AMD make up more then 1%, compared to some trash data stored by facebook on some DELL's

[SpiralTTGL]

On 9/6/2019 at 3:15 PM, XHT_001 said:

they still have a heat spreader, and not bare chips and PCB

mate just hold that L