Bottleneck?

[Octavialicious]

Hi there, I'm really out of the loop when it comes to bottlenecks. Both my CPU and GPU usage are both pinned at 100%, does that mean their is a bottleneck? 

 

 

sorry for the noob question, I'm just unsure. Do games use more cores these days? I remember they used to only use 4 but they didn't use hyperthreading. Do games use more cores now??

 

 

Thanks ty 

[Origami Cactus]

Yes, 6c/6t is going out of style in newer games, 6c/12t is minimum.

 

But your current config is totally good, if you get the performance you are after, no need to view at the cpu/gpu usages.

But the most important is that the GPU usage is 100%, and it is.

[minibois]

If they are both at 100%, there is no bottleneck between the two.

If your CPU was at 100% and your GPU at 50%, that signifies your GPU could do more if your CPU didn't hold it back. That's a bottleneck. That's not what is happening here.

 

And yea, games seem to use more cores than just 2 or 4 nowadays. You can turn on the per core graph in task manager and see what cores are being used.

[Octavialicious]

1 minute ago, Minibois said:

If they are both at 100%, there is no bottleneck between the two.

If your CPU was at 100% and your GPU at 50%, that signifies your GPU could do more if your CPU didn't hold it back. That's a bottleneck. That's not what is happening here.

 

And yea, games seem to use more cores than just 2 or 4 nowadays. You can turn on the per core graph in task manager and see what cores are being used.

is it worth getting an i7 or i9 from an i5? It's probably just better to upgrade the GPU right

[xg32]

1 minute ago, Octavialicious said:

is it worth getting an i7 or i9 from an i5? It's probably just better to upgrade the GPU right

in ur case i'd just keep everything, and upgrade both cpu+gpu only if u feel like it's significantly outdated.

 

if you upgrade only gpu, the cpu will bottleneck, if you upgrade cpu, gpu might hold u back.

[Octavialicious]

1 minute ago, xg32 said:

in ur case i'd just keep everything, and upgrade both cpu+gpu only if u feel like it's significantly outdated.

 

if you upgrade only gpu, the cpu will bottleneck, if you upgrade cpu, gpu might hold u back.

I'm playing 4K, i know that means the cpu isnt as important right? I just want more frames in apex legends lol if im being honest

 

is it worth tryin to get an rtx 2080? 

[xg32]

Just now, Octavialicious said:

I'm playing 4K, i know that means the cpu isnt as important right? I just want more frames in apex legends lol if im being honest

 

is it worth tryin to get an rtx 2080? 

from a 2060 super? only if you recoup some of the cost imho, or if you find some clearance sale on the 2080 for 4k gaming, if you do play in 4k, then gpu is indeed more important.

[Octavialicious]

Just now, xg32 said:

from a 2060 super? only if you recoup some of the cost imho, or if you find some clearance sale on the 2080 for 4k gaming, if you do play in 4k, then gpu is indeed more important.

I might be able to sell it for an ok price, I do have the box and everything

[GoldenLag]

20 minutes ago, Octavialicious said:

Do games use more cores now??

They use up to around 6 threads now. Some do go higher into 8 threads.

 

This does mean having only 6 threads is great as that does lead to stuttering issues due to lack of pipelines for windows to sqedual other tasks. 

 

 

[.Apex.]

42 minutes ago, Octavialicious said:

I'm playing 4K, i know that means the cpu isnt as important right? I just want more frames in apex legends lol if im being honest

Are you getting 100% GPU and CPU usage in Apex Legends? and if so then what's your FPS? something doesn't sound right here

[Octavialicious]

1 hour ago, _Syn_ said:

Are you getting 100% GPU and CPU usage in Apex Legends? and if so then what's your FPS? something doesn't sound right here

yes, 100%. I have to turn everything to low and all the aa and stuff off, then i get like 80 fps i think, it dips a bit

[.Apex.]

7 hours ago, Octavialicious said:

yes, 100%. I have to turn everything to low and all the aa and stuff off, then i get like 80 fps i think, it dips a bit

That's not normal to get 100% CPU usage while only achieving 80 FPS, did you make sure that nothing is running in the background? but either way it's very unlikely to have GPU and CPU at 100%, GPU usage starts to fall down way before the CPU hits the 100% mark, especially since it's using DX11 which is terrible at spreading the cores evenly

 

Might be the software reporting usages incorrectly? what are you using?

And is it 1x16GB or 2x8GB?

[Octavialicious]

5 minutes ago, _Syn_ said:

That's not normal to get 100% CPU usage while only achieving 80 FPS, did you make sure that nothing is running in the background? but either way it's very unlikely to have GPU and CPU at 100%, GPU usage starts to fall down way before the CPU hits the 100% mark, especially since it's using DX11 which is terrible at spreading the cores evenly

 

Might be the software reporting usages incorrectly? what are you using?

And is it 1x16GB or 2x8GB?

I used MSI afterburner, and 2x8GB

 

I didnt have anything in the background

[Octavialicious]

19 minutes ago, _Syn_ said:

That's not normal to get 100% CPU usage while only achieving 80 FPS, did you make sure that nothing is running in the background? but either way it's very unlikely to have GPU and CPU at 100%, GPU usage starts to fall down way before the CPU hits the 100% mark, especially since it's using DX11 which is terrible at spreading the cores evenly

 

Might be the software reporting usages incorrectly? what are you using?

And is it 1x16GB or 2x8GB?

Actually I looked at it again and it was spiking between 60 and 70, so I guess its fine

[.Apex.]

1 hour ago, Octavialicious said:

Actually I looked at it again and it was spiking between 60 and 70, so I guess its fine

Yeah That seems about right to me for a 9400F, though the RTX 2060 is not fit for 4K gaming, I suggest lowering your resolution to 1080p, It will scale properly on a 4K monitor because every 4 Pixels will instead be combined as 1 Pixel

Hard to recommend upgrading your GPU because even the RTX 2080 is not fit for 4K 144hz, unless you don't mind playing on Low

1 hour ago, Octavialicious said:

and 2x8GB 

At what speed?

[.Apex.]

11 minutes ago, _Syn_ said:

Hard to recommend upgrading your GPU because even the RTX 2080 is not fit for 4K 144hz, unless you don't mind playing on Low

Oh, you have a 60hz Monitor, doesn't matter at all to go above 60 FPS, the monitor doesn't even show it

[Octavialicious]

3 hours ago, _Syn_ said:

Oh, you have a 60hz Monitor, doesn't matter at all to go above 60 FPS, the monitor doesn't even show it

ye I get above 60 FPS in all the games I play which is nice, apex is the only game i have to turn down the settings a bit