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What is AMD Mantle and, will Nvidia card support it and run it smouth ?

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What is AMD Mantle and, will Nvidia card support it and run it smouth ?

no its amd only their competitors why would they allow the other group to use the same stuff they invented?  

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What is AMD Mantle and, will Nvidia card support it and run it smouth ?

J'imagine que tu parle Francais comme tu viens d'Algerie? 

 

Pour etre bref, c'est une maniere differente de programmer les jeux sans utiliser le systeme habituel de directX. En theorie ca permet les jeux de mieux performer. Malheureusement pour ton cas, c'est une technologie de AMD qui est pour l'instant limitee seulement au jeu bf4, et elle n'est pas prete de marcher sur des cartes NVIDIA. 

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no its amd only their competitors why would they allow the other group to use the same stuff they invented?  

becaus i thoght as nvidia is allowing the other to use phisx or somthing ?

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What is AMD Mantle and, will Nvidia card support it and run it smouth ?

 

It's a low level API. Similar to DirectX, it allows developers to program stuff at a very low level of the hardware, similar to what developers are abled to achieve on consoles, you know, console optimasation and such.

So in theory Mantle should help you get more out of your hardware. Battlefield 4 is the major game that supports it right now, however AMD has delayed it's drivers, so it's not really there yet.

 

But performance increases from 10-50% depending on your setup.

 

and it's AMD only...

who cares...

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becaus i thoght as nvidia is allowing the other to use phisx or somthing ?

amd dosent have phyx 

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J'imagine que tu parle Francais comme tu viens d'Algerie? 

 

Pour etre bref, c'est une maniere differente de programmer les jeux sans utiliser le systeme habituel de directX. En theorie ca permet les jeux de mieux performer. Malheureusement pour ton cas, c'est une technologie de AMD qui est pour l'instant limitee seulement au jeu bf4, et elle n'est pas prete de marcher sur des cartes NVIDIA. 

mes....Directx est déga en top je ponse pas qu'il peuve défaite le microsoft graphisme moteur !

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no its amd only their competitors why would they allow the other group to use the same stuff they invented?  

the answer to your question is to better the industry

sadly they are being a little like children about things like these forcing consumer to make sacrifices

why cant we ahve a card the does gsync, uses shadowplay, has mantle support and eyefinity? we have the tech now but we cant all play nice apparently

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As i understand AMD said that nvidia can use it, but nvidia will never swallow their pride and use it.

true, plus nvidia 's phisx and all their tech is way ahead   Nvidia rocks

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no its amd only their competitors why would they allow the other group to use the same stuff they invented?  

 

AMD wants Nvidia to use it. They are cool with it. 

We will be happy to answer that for you, but this is in the wrong section of the forum. This topic belongs in General Discussion, not Tech News. Repost this thread over there, and people will go ahead and answer.

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amd dosent have phyx 

they don't have it but they can run it

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mes....Directx est déga en top je ponse pas qu'il peuve défaite le microsoft graphisme moteur !

je suis d'accord a ce point la. Pour l'instant mantle est surtout un truc de marketing et on n'est pas pret de retrouver mantle sur tous les prochains jeux. 

 

 

true, plus nvidia 's phisx and all their tech is way ahead   Nvidia rocks

physx is IMO another marketing thing. There are very few games that support it. 

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je suis d'accord a ce point la. Pour l'instant mantle est surtout un truc de marketing et on n'est pas pret de retrouver mantle sur tous les prochains jeux. 

 

 

physx is IMO another marketing thing. There are very few games that support it.

the coole ones supports it wright ?!

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the coole ones supports it wright ?!

Borderlands 2 made a big deal of it. It's cool, but nothing amazing. 

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they don't have it but they can run it

No, they can't. PhysX cannot be enabled without a Nvidia GPU. The game would probably fall back on to a CPU-based physics model if PhysX cannot be used.

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No, they can't. PhysX cannot be enabled without a Nvidia GPU. The game would probably fall back on to a CPU-based physics model if PhysX cannot be used.

yeees a radeon card can run it ?

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yeees a radeon card can run it ?

No, it cannot. It requires an Nvidia card, and the PhysX drivers bundled with Nvidia driver releases. This technology is Nvidia-only. PhysX can fall back to the CPU if needed, but it's very inefficient.

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No, it cannot. It requires an Nvidia card, and the PhysX drivers bundled with Nvidia driver releases. This technology is Nvidia-only. PhysX can fall back to the CPU if needed, but it's very inefficient.

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Mantle is AMD only BUT its open for everyone you might ask "well what does that have to do with nvidia" here is the thing because mantle is open nvidia can look up what they did and optimize with drivers for ex. look at fancy hair on tombraider thats open too and at launch of tomb raider AMD cards destroyed Nvidia cards but since it was open 2 weeks after launch an nvidia driver updates comes and balances everything. one more example would be the new batman game Nvidia played so smart and added tons of tesselatoin in the game because nvidia cards destroy in tesselation and CLOSED everything so AMD couldnt optimize for it;)

sorry about all the mistakes im typing from a phone :(

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And nvidia will be having Ganeworks in the future which is like Mantle but closed and its not exactly a api its closed for devs too gameworks basiclly is creating amazing visuals without any effort but at the end all of your coding belongs to nvidia (like the new batman game) any game that uses gameworks will always destroy AMD cards but Mantle is open so it probs wont make so much diffrence in the long run with drivers

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true, plus nvidia 's phisx and all their tech is way ahead   Nvidia rocks

It's this kind of comments that let me know that you're a fanboy of nVidia, no two ways about it, which makes me discard just about all you've said. I buy from both, but prefer AMD....

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Mantle is AMD only BUT its open for everyone you might ask "well what does that have to do with nvidia" here is the thing because mantle is open nvidia can look up what they did and optimize with drivers for ex. look at fancy hair on tombraider thats open too and at launch of tomb raider AMD cards destroyed Nvidia cards but since it was open 2 weeks after launch an nvidia driver updates comes and balances everything. one more example would be the new batman game Nvidia played so smart and added tons of tesselatoin in the game because nvidia cards destroy in tesselation and CLOSED everything so AMD couldnt optimize for it;)

sorry about all the mistakes im typing from a phone :(

 

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And nvidia will be having Ganeworks in the future which is like Mantle but closed and its not exactly a api its closed for devs too gameworks basiclly is creating amazing visuals without any effort but at the end all of your coding belongs to nvidia (like the new batman game) any game that uses gameworks will always destroy AMD cards but Mantle is open so it probs wont make so much diffrence in the long run with drivers

You've got the gist of it, with nVidia, they have this "My way or the highway" attitude, whereas AMD's approach is a little more open. With nVidia, it's all proprietary (I don't get why nVidia boys see this as a good thing). Hence, my preference for AMD GPU....

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Some numbers already out.

 

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