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46 minutes ago, Hemmen said:

Currently looking at G.SKILL F4-3600C16D-16GTZ, maybe c17,fits in budget

 

CL16 over CL17 if it is within budget.

If you can get that kit at a reasonable price, I would go with it.

 

GTZ is the "regular" Trident-Z without the RGB lighting effects, just so you are aware.

Trying to configure my first pc, sort of stuck with choosing the ram. Because variety is great, but it doesn't help if you don't know what to choose. 

So, I've heard G.skill is good? Probably 8x2 3200-3400 mhz maybe 3600. But it really ends up with what will yield best performance. 130 usd or less. 

 

 

System I will be building

Mobo - Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE
Case -  Cooler master nr600
Cpu - ryzen 7 3700x
Gpu - rx 5700 xt(some custom) 
Psu - cooler master mwe gold 750w

Ram - idk

 

Will also appreciate your help and suggestions with this build, and what 120mm cooler to get

Thank in advance. 

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Brand is up to you. Personally I like G.Skill. Others will have different opinions. As for speed statistics apparently show that the Ryzen 3XXX series benefits from about the fastest RAM you can put in it if your goal is FPS.

 

Counter to that if you're on a budget buying slower RAM but tightening the timing (8-8-8-24 (DDR3 example)) will yield the same effect if you can get the numbers low enough while maintaining stability. Kind of a cheat when you don't have a lot to spend.

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Thanks for the reply!

Well, goal is not only fps, but some sort of heavy workloads/rendering/compiling + of course some game performance. Do work loads benefit from higher clocks? 

I looked at g.skill website recently and just can't get what are the benefits of the new series(eg. Neo). 

5 minutes ago, Windows7ge said:

Brand is up to you. Personally I like G.Skill. Others will have different opinions. As for speed statistics apparently show that the Ryzen 3XXX series benefits from about the fastest RAM you can put in it if your goal is FPS.

 

Counter to that if you're on a budget buying slower RAM but tightening the timing (8-8-8-24 (DDR3 example)) will yield the same effect if you can get the numbers low enough while maintaining stability. Kind of a cheat when you don't have a lot to spend.

 

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12 minutes ago, Hemmen said:

Thanks for the reply!

Well, goal is not only fps, but some sort of heavy workloads/rendering/compiling + of course some game performance. Do work loads benefit from higher clocks? 

I looked at g.skill website recently and just can't get what are the benefits of the new series(eg. Neo). 

 

My knowledge in the specifics of what productivity applications benefits from faster RAM clocks is limited but I can direct you to this video:

Traditionally on older platforms one of the few things that really benefited from faster RAM were things like video editing. Swapping large files in & out of RAM so I would expect it should help here. Specifically the exporting or rendering I don't know. As for compiling I'm still too much of a coding novice. My largest project I ever had to compile was only like 300 lines so I can't say how RAM speeds impact compiling speeds either. Higher CPU clocks are a factor though I know that.

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First problem, do you overclock memory yourself or just take the easy route with XMP?

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Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

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23 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

First problem, do you overclock memory yourself or just take the easy route with XMP?

Well xmp seems like an easy way, but I want to get into overclocking a bit given I've got time. So I'd say manual. 

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Currently looking at G.SKILL F4-3600C16D-16GTZ, maybe c17,fits in budget

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46 minutes ago, Hemmen said:

Currently looking at G.SKILL F4-3600C16D-16GTZ, maybe c17,fits in budget

 

CL16 over CL17 if it is within budget.

If you can get that kit at a reasonable price, I would go with it.

 

GTZ is the "regular" Trident-Z without the RGB lighting effects, just so you are aware.

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4 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

 

CL16 over CL17 if it is within budget.

If you can get that kit at a reasonable price, I wold go with it.

 

GTZ is the "regular" Trident-Z without the RGB lighting effects, just so you are aware.

So CL16 it is then, yeah I know r is for rgb in gtzr, not quite sure if I want it, as the build otherwise is rgb-less, excluding the packed cpu-cooler. But maybe some flashy sticks in the case is just what I need. 

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4 hours ago, Hemmen said:

Currently looking at G.SKILL F4-3600C16D-16GTZ, maybe c17,fits in budget

I'm about to say "can buy slower sticks and push them further", but sure higher rated sticks means you get greater potential and higher guaranteed performance.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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I went with a G.skill 3200mhz CL14 (F4-3200C14D-16GTZR) for my 3900x build. I wish i could tell you more about it, but not unlike other people, my 3900x has yet to arrive. I plan on pushing them to 3800mhz, then setting the timings as tight as possible.

 

Searching around, it seems G.skill is introducing a 3800mhz CL14-16-16-36 8gb * 2 in the near future.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14696/gskill-reveals-trident-z-neo-ddr43800-cl14-kit-for-amd-ryzen-3000

 

I would not bet on this kit of RAM going for cheap. 3600mhz CL16 is already quite expensive.

 

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Motherboard: Asus X570-E
CPU: 3900x 4.3GHZ

Memory: G.skill Trident GTZR 3200mhz cl14

GPU: AMD RX 570

SSD1: Corsair MP510 1TB

SSD2: Samsung MX500 500GB

PSU: Corsair AX860i Platinum

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