Seagate HDD failure rate

[elfishz]

I saw this video on youtube:

People say that Seagate hard drives are bad. How bad exactly are they? Like the failure rate is 10% after 2 years?

[goto10]

as a user, all seagate i had went bad, some made me loose information, lots of it

 

last 2 ended bad, for me that is unaceptable

 

toshiba, western digital or hitachi hgst are the only pptions to buy hard disks now

 

for me that 10% is not aceptable, nor is correct, others can say the same about my preferred brands, but seagate definitively left me the worst impression possible

[Metallus97]

Well I am also more of a WD fan and never had a WD fail on me, but some Seagate did fail

 

Best source for such stuff:

 

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-stats-for-2018/

[elfishz]

2 minutes ago, Metallus97 said:

Well I am also more of a WD fan and never had a WD fail on me, but some Seagate did fail

 

Best source for such stuff:

 

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-stats-for-2018/

Holy crap

So according to the table, if it was made by Seagate, it would have a high failure rate. However, the WDC drive also had a high failure rate that is odd...

[Radium_Angel]

*All* hard drives fail, sooner or later.

If you have a solid backup plan, then the drive manufacturer doesn't matter.

[Levent]

There is no such thing as most reliable manufacturer, I had 3 WD drives fail on me while none of my seagate and hitachi drives died (I got one that is 10 years old and has 6-7 years of power on time). Just all your luck imo.

[elfishz]

2 minutes ago, Levent said:

There is no such thing as most reliable manufacturer, I had 3 WD drives fail on me while none of my seagate and hitachi drives died (I got one that is 10 years old and has 6-7 years of power on time). Just all your luck imo.

Well, I could try my luck but most people say Seagate sucks. Unless I am looking at a biased source, Seagate HDDs are generally likely to fail.

[elfishz]

9 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said:

*All* hard drives fail, sooner or later.

If you have a solid backup plan, then the drive manufacturer doesn't matter.

So I could buy cheap crappy unbranded SSDs from China and put them in RAID and it won't matter whether they fail or not.

[goto10]

41 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said:

*All* hard drives fail, sooner or later.

If you have a solid backup plan, then the drive manufacturer doesn't matter.

that is correct, but if the freaking hard disk dies after 6 months, it doesnt matter warranty, backups, nothing

 

it was a bad hard disk, and i will not buy another from them, 

[Radium_Angel]

53 minutes ago, elfishz said:

So I could buy cheap crappy unbranded SSDs from China and put them in RAID and it won't matter whether they fail or not.

RAID is useful, but not a backup method, as others are so fond of saying.

RAID 5 will help mitigate data loss in the event of a drive failure however, further minimizing the risk of buying a "bad" drive

[Radium_Angel]

1 hour ago, elfishz said:

Well, I could try my luck but most people say Seagate sucks. Unless I am looking at a biased source, Seagate HDDs are generally likely to fail.

I was in the data recovery business for about 10 years.

The biggest number of drives I saw?

Western Digitals. I had *stacks* of dead WDs on a regular basis.

 

I could count on one hand how many Seagates I saw. At the time Seagates were also the only drives with a 5 year warranty, which they honoured without question.

Take that for what it's worth. This was ~7 years ago, things may have changed.

[goto10]

40 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said:

I was in the data recovery business for about 10 years.

The biggest number of drives I saw?

Western Digitals. I had *stacks* of dead WDs on a regular basis.

 

I could count on one hand how many Seagates I saw. At the time Seagates were also the only drives with a 5 year warranty, which they honoured without question.

Take that for what it's worth. This was ~7 years ago, things may have changed.

this made me remember samsung monitors, years ago was the same, but at that time they were who sold the most, so perhaps it was expected to see more units dead from that brand

 

seagate could be on the same position, but a dead monitor is not as terrible as a dead hard disk

[dalekphalm]

20 hours ago, elfishz said:

Holy crap

So according to the table, if it was made by Seagate, it would have a high failure rate. However, the WDC drive also had a high failure rate that is odd...

You gotta consider that those HDD's are being thrashed by Blackblaze. They run their Cloud Storage systems on them. So their failure rate is going to be substantially higher than a regular consumers would be, regardless of the drive manufacturer.

 

The simple truth is that, on average, both WDC and Seagate are fairly similar in terms of raw failure rate. Seagate does get a bad rap, but in my experience, that's mostly from people having a bias against Seagate (maybe one of their drives died on the person years ago, etc).

 

I've had failures from Seagate, Hitachi, and WDC. The only ones that haven't failed on me (yet) are my Toshiba HDD's - but I wouldn't use that to say Toshiba is far better than all the others.

 

Reliability from any of the major HDD manufacturers (of which there's really only 4 left: Toshiba, HGST, WDC, and Seagate - note: WDC owns HGST now - and Toshiba drives are basically Hitachi drives, since when WDC bought HGST, Toshiba bought the Hitachi production facilities as part of the deal).

 

Every manufacturer occasionally makes a lemon. Eveyr manufacturer also occasionally has the odd defect. People get unlucky, and sometimes it feels like all your dead drives are from one company - but that doesn't mean everyone experiences the same issues.

[wafflehaus]

On 8/1/2019 at 9:13 AM, goto10 said:

as a user, all seagate i had went bad, some made me loose information, lots of it

 

last 2 ended bad, for me that is unaceptable

 

toshiba, western digital or hitachi hgst are the only pptions to buy hard disks now

 

for me that 10% is not aceptable, nor is correct, others can say the same about my preferred brands, but seagate definitively left me the worst impression possible

Yep it's very subjective but I'm the same as you. For years I had Seagates die on me, but in the last 6 years of exclusively buying WD drives I haven't lost one. I have even one poor WD Black 5TB in one of my PCs that's been getting absolutely thrashed for years as my main download drive and that thing just keeps on trucking.

 

Most Seagates I've owned over the years by comparison barely last 2 years before they die spectacularly.