Rog Strix X570 E vs X570 Gaming Pro Carbon WiFi

[Roudrasekhar]

I am looking for a motherboard to go with ryzen 9 3900x. I was leaning towards asus strix x570-E Gaming and Gigabyte Aorus Ultra. Specially the former. But today I found out that MSI has a promotion going on, on buying a x570 pro carbon one will get a ML240L liquid cooler and a 25$ steam gift card. Even a wd black 500gb nvme ssd If one write a good review! More or less every x570 mother board at least have 12+2 phase VRM but the carbon only got 8+4  phase. So would it be all right to use msi carbon with ryzen 3900x or should I go with a better vrm board instead?

[MeatFeastMan]

Yes it will be fine. The 3900x consumes about as much as the 2700x, so you won't have any issues on the carbon. Also the MSI boards have ball bearings for their fans, whereas the others don't say what fans they are using (Knowing ASUS, they'll probably use horrible sleeve bearings). The fans probably won't spin too much though (or at least they shouldn't do) so it's up to you whether that changes what you think about the boards. Just thought I'd point that out.

[Tiago8v]

4 minutes ago, Roudrasekhar said:

I am looking for a motherboard to go with ryzen 9 3900x. I was leaning towards asus strix x570-E Gaming and Gigabyte Aorus Ultra. Specially the former. But today I found out that MSI has a promotion going on, on buying a x570 pro carbon one will get a ML240L liquid cooler and a 25$ steam gift card. Even a wd black 500gb nvme ssd If one write a good review! More or less every x570 mother board at least have 12+2 phase VRM but the carbon only got 8+4  phase. So would it be all right to use msi carbon with ryzen 3900x or should I go with a better vrm board instead?

Hey man, MSI it's not a bad choice... x570 pro carbon is a good board, and the ML240L is also very decent AIO for the price... It would be my choice!

I like Asus very much... It was allways my 1st choise, but i'm kinda mad with them because of bad integrations with other RGB components.

 

Anyway... my choices would be: MSI (because of the RGB), ASUS and for last AORUS.

[Roudrasekhar]

25 minutes ago, Tiago8v said:

Hey man, MSI it's not a bad choice... x570 pro carbon is a good board, and the ML240L is also very decent AIO for the price... It would be my choice!

I like Asus very much... It was allways my 1st choise, but i'm kinda mad with them because of bad integrations with other RGB components.

 

Anyway... my choices would be: MSI (because of the RGB), ASUS and for last AORUS.

Don’t take it the wrong way but RGB is not at all my concern. The strix gaming-e series is known to have the high end bare bone structure of crosshair boards without many extreme overclocking features on a more affordable price. And this board has the most 10gbps usb port that I’ve seen. And I can’t find any reviews on carbon yet! If anyone can share any link it will be a great help.

[Jurrunio]

37 minutes ago, Roudrasekhar said:

the carbon only got 8+4  phase

it's a 5*2+2, with previously unseen powerstages and no public datasheet so no idea how well those perform. Meanwhile X570-E is a 6+2, Aorus Ultra is a 6*2+2

 

but really even the older X470 Carbon have enough power to run the 12 core, I dont see why the new board can't do it. If it can't, MSI screwed it up bad.

 

Tho the ML240L is a terrible cooler. Performance is only about as good as mid range air coolers, while leaking accidents are far more common than other AIOs. Partly because it is leaky, partly because plenty of people bought one.

[Roudrasekhar]

4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

it's a 5*2+2, with previously unseen powerstages and no public datasheet so no idea how well those perform. Meanwhile X570-E is a 6+2, Aorus Ultra is a 6*2+2

 

but really even the older X470 Carbon have enough power to run the 12 core, I dont see why the new board can't do it. If it can't, MSI screwed it up bad.

 

Tho the ML240L is a terrible cooler. Performance is only about as good as mid range air coolers, while leaking accidents are far more common than other AIOs. Partly because it is leaky, partly because plenty of people bought one.

No the strix has 6*2+2*2 phase. It’s on their official website. And I read about the carbon on a preview blog. And msi has no official information (at least I couldn’t find any).

[Jurrunio]

30 minutes ago, Roudrasekhar said:

No the strix has 6*2+2*2 phase. It’s on their official website. And I read about the carbon on a preview blog. And msi has no official information (at least I couldn’t find any).

if there's no doubler, it doesn't count as a *2 design in my book. Those phases turn on and off together, not out of phase by any means.

[Quadriplegic]

1 hour ago, Roudrasekhar said:

No the strix has 6*2+2*2 phase. It’s on their official website. And I read about the carbon on a preview blog. And msi has no official information (at least I couldn’t find any).

Pretty sure they use 6+2 on Strix-E, they use 4+2 on Strix-F after all. Although, if they used only 2 power stages per phase instead of 3, I can see why they advertise it as 6*2.

Buildzoid mentions in this video that there is board above Strix-E that isn't much more expensive and has additional 2 sets of conductors and power phases. I guess Strix-E is the only choice there, as C8H is quite a bit more expensive. So them advertising it as  6*2 is bit weird

[toobladink]

Can you provide the link to the promotion you're talking about?

[Roudrasekhar]

2 hours ago, toobladink said:

Can you provide the link to the promotion you're talking about?

https://www.msi.com/Promotion/I-Love-You-3000-AMD/

[GoofyGufz Gamer]

Don't be greedy just for free aio, it's really not worth it, i really regreted it bought msi pro carbon, the bonus will sent to you around 4-8 weeks, and the board quality far from x570 taichi. in my area the difference just $30 and because of that fricking "free stuff" i chose this mid tier board rather than high tier asrock taichi.  except you buy msi ace don't buy lower series you'll regreted it.