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Hello, I am in the process of making a brand new custom built pc, my budget is around 500-700 bucks but really depends on whats out there on the market. I am gonna use my current GTX 1060 from my current pc to my new pc. What CPU would you consider that is within that price range? Keep in mind I have to buy other stuff using that budget!

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Just now, cpk03 said:

Hello, I am in the process of making a brand new custom built pc, my budget is around 500-700 bucks but really depends on whats out there on the market. I am gonna use my current GTX 1060 from my current pc to my new pc. What CPU would you consider that is within that price range? Keep in mind I have to buy other stuff using that budget!

For the love of all things, WAIT TILL RYZEN 3000. Unless you have to buy now. In that case a Ryzen 1600/1700.

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2 minutes ago, Boinbo said:

For the love of all things, WAIT TILL RYZEN 3000. Unless you have to buy now. In that case a Ryzen 1600/1700.

Everyone keeps saying that but I don't see how the ryzen 3000 is going to compete price/performance wise with the 1600. The 3600 is going to launch at $200. The 1600 is $100 right now from bestbuy and $80 from microcenter. The 3600 is not going to be 100% faster than the 1600

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7 minutes ago, cpk03 said:

my budget is around 500-700 bucks but really depends on whats out there on the market. I am gonna use my current GTX 1060 from my current pc to my new pc

whats your current pc? may be something can be reused?

basically with just a gtx1060, you will still be heavily gpu bottlenecked all the time, 

but dont e bound the gpu and get a crappy cpu, you will always upgrade it

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1 minute ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

whats your current pc? may be something can be reused?

basically with just a gtx1060, you will still be heavily gpu bottlenecked all the time, 

but dont e bound the gpu and get a crappy cpu, you will always upgrade it

Well my current build is a old crappy Lenovo x315 "Gaming" PC. Not sure what exactly I can reuse other then probably the HDD, and the ram.

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21 minutes ago, Sat1600 said:

Everyone keeps saying that but I don't see how the ryzen 3000 is going to compete price/performance wise with the 1600. The 3600 is going to launch at $200. The 1600 is $100 right now from bestbuy and $80 from microcenter. The 3600 is not going to be 100% faster than the 1600

It doesn't really have to be, it just has to be a large enough improvement. 15% more IPC and 15% clock speed advantage? More than enough to justify the price premium, for most people. The 1600 will have better bang for buck but the 3600 would the be an all round excellent performer for a modest price 

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1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

It doesn't really have to be, it just has to be a large enough improvement. 15% more IPC and 15% clock speed advantage? More than enough to justify the price premium, for most people. The 1600 will have better bang for buck but the 3600 would the be an all round excellent performer for a modest price 

Agreed. But if I had a budget of $500 - $600, the $100 (or more if you have a microcenter) savings can be spent on a GPU. Ryzen 5 1600 + a 1660ti will give you better performance than a 3600 + RX 580. In most games anyway

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8 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

It doesn't really have to be, it just has to be a large enough improvement. 15% more IPC and 15% clock speed advantage? More than enough to justify the price premium, for most people. The 1600 will have better bang for buck but the 3600 would the be an all round excellent performer for a modest price 

People have this unrealistic hangup with expecting directly proportional performance per dollar.

 

The truth is, the cost of more performance always has, currently does, and always will, suffer from diminishing returns.

 

A ZR1 isn't twice as quick as a base C7, but it certainly costs twice as much.

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3 minutes ago, Sat1600 said:

Agreed. But if I had a budget of $500 - $600, the $100 (or more if you have a microcenter) savings can be spent on a GPU. Ryzen 5 1600 + a 1660ti will give you better performance than a 3600 + RX 580. In most games anyway

For 1080p high at 60fps it's a good rig, but I'd prefer the 3600 and the 580 for a 144Hz medium rig. The new Ryzen processors are gonna be my go to recommendation for budget 144 fps gaming setups, and the handful of sub $200 monitors in the 144Hz category.

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22 minutes ago, Sat1600 said:

Agreed. But if I had a budget of $500 - $600, the $100 (or more if you have a microcenter) savings can be spent on a GPU. Ryzen 5 1600 + a 1660ti will give you better performance than a 3600 + RX 580. In most games anyway

Either way, as long as @cpk03 gets a quality B450 motherboard like a B450 Tomahawk, they could upgrade either the CPU or GPU down the line as desired.

 

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I would 100% wait until the AMD processors come out in the next few weeks.

 

Even if they are to expensive for you the price of the current generation will probably drop down a bit.. plus there will be Amazon prime day next month so you could prob get some good deals then as well ;)

 

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10 hours ago, Plutosaurus said:

People have this unrealistic hangup with expecting directly proportional performance per dollar.

 

The truth is, the cost of more performance always has, currently does, and always will, suffer from diminishing returns.

 

A ZR1 isn't twice as quick as a base C7, but it certainly costs twice as much.

Of course. If money is no object, you get the best CPU/GPU you can afford. The question is when there is a budget. Do you get more bang for buck by getting a 20% better cpu or a 20% better GPU. I think you will get better performance by putting that $100 toward the GPU. I wish I had the money to test that theory. Lol

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11 hours ago, Sat1600 said:

Everyone keeps saying that but I don't see how the ryzen 3000 is going to compete price/performance wise with the 1600. The 3600 is going to launch at $200. The 1600 is $100 right now from bestbuy and $80 from microcenter. The 3600 is not going to be 100% faster than the 1600

That's right, it doesn't have to be, as it's release will lower previous gen CPU prices, making even better value. Also you could get a 3rd gen ryzen if you want.

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3 minutes ago, Boinbo said:

That's right, it doesn't have to be, as it's release will lower previous gen CPU prices, making even better value. Also you could get a 3rd gen ryzen if you want.

You don't think the 1600 has bottomed out? Maybe I'm jaded because I live next to microcenter but it's $80 plus $30 off of a motherboard. Any cheaper and they will come free in cereal boxes. 

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2 minutes ago, Sat1600 said:

You don't think the 1600 has bottomed out? Maybe I'm jaded because I live next to microcenter but it's $80 plus $30 off of a motherboard. Any cheaper and they will come free in cereal boxes. 

That would be great. It hasn't bottomed out, because it's performance is similar to the 2600, which is still going strong.

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50 minutes ago, Boinbo said:

That would be great. It hasn't bottomed out, because it's performance is similar to the 2600, which is still going strong.

Think he meant price when he said bottoming out

 

As more AM4 chips saturate the market, older ones will probably still sink in value.

 

My guess is that the Ryzen 5 1600 will become the new "$20 CPU" in 2025 that Tech YES City will be making hustle videos on instead of X58.

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12 hours ago, Sat1600 said:

Everyone keeps saying that but I don't see how the ryzen 3000 is going to compete price/performance wise with the 1600. The 3600 is going to launch at $200. The 1600 is $100 right now from bestbuy and $80 from microcenter. The 3600 is not going to be 100% faster than the 1600

This, plus cheap motherboards and ungodly cheap DDR4, is why first-gen Ryzen is the value king right now, and has rendered old standby value sockets like LGA 1366, LGA 1156 and even LGA 1155 obsolete. Unless/until DDR4 spikes again and sends everyone scrambling for LGA 1150/5 or LGA 2011 (DDR3 chipsets), early Ryzen chips are just this side of guaranteed to hold that title.

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27 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

Think he meant price when he said bottoming out

 

As more AM4 chips saturate the market, older ones will probably still sink in value.

 

My guess is that the Ryzen 5 1600 will become the new "$20 CPU" in 2025 that Tech YES City will be making hustle videos on instead of X58.

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