Best 140mm AiO - AM4 (fans not important)

[MadDuke]

Hi guys.

 

Anybody have a recommendation for the best 140mm AiO.  Fans are not important. I have my Noctuas already and they do the job nicely. 

Only important factor is that it is AM4 compatible .

 

Tried searching, but nothing solid I could find on the forum. So sorry in advance if I've missed some topic.

[-rascal-]

8 minutes ago, MadDuke said:

Hi guys.

 

Anybody have a recommendation for the best 140mm AiO.  Fans are not important. I have my Noctuas already and they do the job nicely. 

Only important factor is that it is AM4 compatible .

 

Tried searching, but nothing solid I could find on the forum. So sorry in advance if I've missed some topic.

 

What is the reason for getting an AIO versus a conventional metal tower CPU cooler?

You are not getting to get very good cooling performance out of a small 140mm radiator -- especially if you decide to do any overclocking.

[Sorenson]

2 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

 

What is the reason for getting an AIO versus a conventional metal tower CPU cooler?

You are not getting to get very good cooling performance out of a small 140mm radiator -- especially if you decide to do any overclocking.

The reason is he probably wants to get an AIO. With ryzen you can run the 2700x comfortably on a Corsair h60i since it runs cooler than intel. 

 

@MadDuke I would go either Corsair H90. Almost every AIO is made with an asetek pump, so you really just need to find a reliable brand and the look you like. 

[Senzelian]

 

 

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1 minute ago, Sorenson said:

Almost every AIO is made with an asetek pump

Yeah, if we don't count be Quiet, Enermax, Cooler Master, Alphacool, EKWB, Raijintek, and DeepCool.

[Sorenson]

22 minutes ago, Senzelian said:

Yeah, if we don't count be Quiet, Enermax, Cooler Master, Alphacool, EKWB, Raijintek, and DeepCool.

True if you want to go with smaller brands you can get AIO's that aren't asetek. But even if you do their performance won't be significantly different than going with an Asetek pump. So i'm not sure what your point is besides trying to be a keyboard warrior. Also EKWB doesn't make AIOs. 

 

Brands that use asetek: Asus, Corsair, NZXT, EVGA, Cryorig, Fractal Design, and Thermaltake.

[-rascal-]

40 minutes ago, Sorenson said:

The reason is he probably wants to get an AIO. With ryzen you can run the 2700x comfortably on a Corsair h60i since it runs cooler than intel. 

 

@MadDuke I would go either Corsair H90. Almost every AIO is made with an asetek pump, so you really just need to find a reliable brand and the look you like. 

 

I'm trying to find out WHY he wants to go with an AIO.

Case size limitation?

Aesthetics?

Regional pricing?

etc...

 

For all we know, OP could be preparing for the upcoming Ryzen 3000 CPUs.

Those could generate more heat than a stock Ryzen 2700, depending which CPU he gets and the use case scenario.

[WoodenMarker]

1 hour ago, -rascal- said:

You are not getting to get very good cooling performance out of a small 140mm radiator -- especially if you decide to do any overclocking.

A 140mm AIO is hardly small nor bad performing. Most of them perform as well as 140mm or dual tower air coolers.

https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/6810/nzxt-kraken-x41-140mm-aio-cpu-cooler-review/index6.html

https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/5231/corsair-hydro-series-h90-aio-cpu-cooler-review/index8.html

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/corsair_h90_review,12.html

 

@MadDuke There aren't that many 140mm AIO's and most of them are generally pretty good. The cheapest one from a reputable brand should be fine. 

Why are you looking for a 140mm AIO in particular? What cpu, case, and ram are you using?

[Senzelian]

10 hours ago, Sorenson said:

True if you want to go with smaller brands you can get AIO's that aren't asetek. But even if you do their performance won't be significantly different than going with an Asetek pump. So i'm not sure what your point is besides trying to be a keyboard warrior. Also EKWB doesn't make AIOs. 

 

Brands that use asetek: Asus, Corsair, NZXT, EVGA, Cryorig, Fractal Design, and Thermaltake.

The point was to correct your false statement. That's it.

[Sorenson]

3 hours ago, Senzelian said:

The point was to correct your false statement. That's it.

only three of those brands make 140mm AIOs with two of them actually worth buying. So my original statement that most are Asetek wasn’t ‘false’. 

[WoodenMarker]

2 hours ago, Sorenson said:

only three of those brands make 140mm AIOs with two of them actually worth buying. So my original statement that most are Asetek wasn’t ‘false’. 

I actually looked up 'almost all' earlier. Turns out it basically means 99%+.

It's a bit different compared to just saying 'most'. 

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[Sorenson]

57 minutes ago, WoodenMarker said:

I actually looked up 'almost all' earlier. Turns out it basically means 99%+.

It's a bit different compared to just saying 'most'. 

yea but he called me out on the internet so i have to pretend like i’m 100% correct even though he brought up a good point  I only really look at nzxt or corsair for AIO’s and i forget that there are a lot of smaller brands that are in the space too. 

[MadDuke]

Hi guys.  

Lots of answers really quickly.  Thank you.

 

The point is that I have a Phanteks Shift (non x).  So whatever I choose it will be paired with noctua fans in push-pull. (I know, you don't get that much extra with 2 fans, but I have them already. 

 

 I already have a 120mm Cooler Master Mater Liquid or whatever the name is paired with R7 1700 It's working OK @3.85 GHz and 1.375 peak V  (compromise between noise and performance). 

 

As I plan to transfer this one to our second PC I'm thinking of getting something with the best performance without going the custom loop route honestly since it's expensive, and even though I have a 3D printer I don't have time to design and print custom mounts and everything and the whole thing would probably end up being at least 300-400 USD. 

 

[WoodenMarker]

6 hours ago, MadDuke said:

The point is that I have a Phanteks Shift (non x).  So whatever I choose it will be paired with noctua fans in push-pull. (I know, you don't get that much extra with 2 fans, but I have them already. 

It seems like the case needs to be modded to fit a 140mm AIO.

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/X6Bbt6

https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/72w9wj/got_my_kraken_x42_to_fit_n_the_phanteks_shift/

 

As long as you're prepared to do that, you should be fine. I'd recommend also getting the Kraken X42 since it seems to be the most popular one for the case and it may be useful to have plenty of examples to look at when working with such a compact case. 

[MadDuke]

On 6/18/2019 at 2:21 AM, WoodenMarker said:

It seems like the case needs to be modded to fit a 140mm AIO.

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/X6Bbt6

https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/72w9wj/got_my_kraken_x42_to_fit_n_the_phanteks_shift/

 

As long as you're prepared to do that, you should be fine. I'd recommend also getting the Kraken X42 since it seems to be the most popular one for the case and it may be useful to have plenty of examples to look at when working with such a compact case. 

Hi,

I also have the SF600 hehehe

 3D printing a "standoff" for the PSU would really not be a problem for me. I print ABS almost exclusively anyway so 100 degrees or similar temperature wouldn't really be a problem. (not that it will ever reach 100, that would be, well, bad ) 

 

I'm in between right now between the X42 and the Cooler Master Master Liquid 140mm.  Unfortunately. Looks like testing of AiO (120 and 140mm) is really not popular so will scour the internet and try to find some comparison.  or at least being tested on a same CPU and frequency. 

 

 

 

[WoodenMarker]

On 6/19/2019 at 12:35 AM, MadDuke said:

I'm in between right now between the X42 and the Cooler Master Master Liquid 140mm.  Unfortunately. Looks like testing of AiO (120 and 140mm) is really not popular so will scour the internet and try to find some comparison.  or at least being tested on a same CPU and frequency. 

140mm AIO's aren't popular in general which is pretty disappointing since they often perform very well and similarly to 240mm's. 

I haven't seen a direct comparison between the two but I'm not sure how helpful that would be given that the MasterLiquid Pro 140 has 2x slightly higher rpm fans compared to the Kraken X42's one and you're using aftermarket fans. 

I'd recommend just going with whichever is cheaper or looks better if not the Kraken X42 just to know it's been done. 

[MadDuke]

19 hours ago, WoodenMarker said:

140mm AIO's aren't popular in general which is pretty disappointing since they often perform very well and similarly to 240mm's. 

I haven't seen a direct comparison between the two but I'm not sure how helpful that would be given that the MasterLiquid Pro 140 has 2x slightly higher rpm fans compared to the Kraken X42's one and you're using aftermarket fans. 

I'd recommend just going with whichever is cheaper or looks better if not the Kraken X42 just to know it's been done. 

Will do

Yeah. My main gripe with AiO testing is that people don't use some control fans also to have a "normalized" result.  That data is also valuable together with the data what you are getting out of the box for the price. 

PS: Irony is I live like 1 hour away from the EKWB company.  Wish they would open a hugely discounted "factory" store hehehe