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FPS scaling with CPU using FFXIV Shadowbringers benchmark

The FFXIV Shadowbringers benchmark was released just over a day ago and I've been testing with it since. On thing I thought I'd try was CPU scaling. I was going to use real CPUs, but it would be a major pain to move the same GPU around different systems so I decided to go the bios route, reducing cores and HT.

 

Test system main parts are 8086k + 1080Ti. Ram is 3000C16 dual channel.

 

I decided to run High (Desktop) setting at 1080p, as this gives a balance of high quality and framerate. The benchmark outputs an average and minimum fps. I will round the average to one decimal place. The game only gives an integer value for minimum. I decided to fix the CPU to 4.0 GHz for the comparison, with a higher stock clock run left in for indication.

 

Average, minimum, configuration

155.1, 62, 6c12t stock

155.2, 61, 6c12t 4.0 GHz

153.5, 58, 6c6t

153.5, 57, 4c8t

149.1, 50, 4c4t

140.3, 41, 2c4t

 

Well, I found it interesting. Only a small drop going from 6c12t to either 6c6t or 4c8t. Bigger drop, especially for minimums, once down to 4t. I suspect but haven't verified but the bench stores one second average fps, so the minimum would be the lowest 1 second average. I also need to look further when it happens, and what's going on at the time.

Gaming system: R7 7800X3D, Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming Wifi, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB, Corsair Vengeance 2x 32GB 6000C30, RTX 4070, MSI MPG A850G, Fractal Design North, Samsung 990 Pro 2TB, Acer Predator XB241YU 24" 1440p 144Hz G-Sync + HP LP2475w 24" 1200p 60Hz wide gamut
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I wonder if frequency incrase can solve that for lower core counts?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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8 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I wonder if frequency incrase can solve that for lower core counts?

Good question. I was thinking of doing a 5.0 GHz run later to see if it helps the top end, so could try it then also.

Gaming system: R7 7800X3D, Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming Wifi, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB, Corsair Vengeance 2x 32GB 6000C30, RTX 4070, MSI MPG A850G, Fractal Design North, Samsung 990 Pro 2TB, Acer Predator XB241YU 24" 1440p 144Hz G-Sync + HP LP2475w 24" 1200p 60Hz wide gamut
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3 hours ago, porina said:

Only a small drop going from 6c12t to either 6c6t or 4c8t. Bigger drop, especially for minimums, once down to 4t.

Look at stream hardware survey: over 50% of gamers have 4 core CPUs. Most are going to be 8t. So devs will optimize games for 4c/8t. 

 

Post up your 4K result

Spoiler

FINAL FANTASY XIV: Shadowbringers Benchmark
Tested on:  5/25/2019 5:05:25
Score: 9958
Average Frame Rate: 66.6849
Minimum Frame Rate: 22
Performance: Extremely High
-Easily capable of running the game on the highest settings.
Loading Times by Scene
  Scene #1    1.645 sec
  Scene #2    3.503 sec
  Scene #3    4.17 sec
  Scene #4    2.832 sec
  Scene #5    1.428 sec
 Total Loading Time    13.578 sec
 

System
Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (ver.10.0.17134 Build 17134)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 4.40GHz
32693.867MB [8x4GB 2400CL13]
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti(VRAM 11127 MB)

 

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1 hour ago, bomerr said:

Post up your 4K result

I don't use 4k monitor on gaming system but did run it on my test system if that's of any interest:

7800X + RTX 2070

4k max, 48.1 ave, 17 min

4k high desktop, 56.0 ave, 18 min

4k standard desktop, 91.9 ave, 23 min

 

I need to do a PSU swap on my game system later and I was going to move it over to the 4k monitor then for some runs.

Gaming system: R7 7800X3D, Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming Wifi, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB, Corsair Vengeance 2x 32GB 6000C30, RTX 4070, MSI MPG A850G, Fractal Design North, Samsung 990 Pro 2TB, Acer Predator XB241YU 24" 1440p 144Hz G-Sync + HP LP2475w 24" 1200p 60Hz wide gamut
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6 hours ago, bomerr said:

Post up your 4K result

Was yours on max settings?

 

Spoiler

FINAL FANTASY XIV: Shadowbringers Benchmark
Tested on:  25/5/2019 18:01:52
Score: 9583
Average Frame Rate: 64.11198
Minimum Frame Rate: 22
Performance: Extremely High
-Easily capable of running the game on the highest settings.
Loading Times by Scene
  Scene #1    1.318 sec
  Scene #2    2.211 sec
  Scene #3    3.097 sec
  Scene #4    2.119 sec
  Scene #5    0.932 sec
 Total Loading Time    9.677 sec

 

Screen Size: 3840x2160
Screen Mode: Full Screen
DirectX Version: 11
Graphics Presets: Maximum

 

Gaming system: R7 7800X3D, Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming Wifi, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB, Corsair Vengeance 2x 32GB 6000C30, RTX 4070, MSI MPG A850G, Fractal Design North, Samsung 990 Pro 2TB, Acer Predator XB241YU 24" 1440p 144Hz G-Sync + HP LP2475w 24" 1200p 60Hz wide gamut
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7 hours ago, porina said:

Was yours on max settings?

my score (9958-67fps) was 4k max w/ the Strix with max power & voltage setting.

I wanted to see how my 5820k compared to a modern CPU.

I'm really happy I got this cpu over the 4790k back in 2014. 

5 years and no bottleneck.

So much future proofing. 

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A lot of these MMO type games are very single thread dependant.

Most don't scale very well past 4 threads because of their game code

 

Wow and FFXIV both are like that

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

 

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6 hours ago, bomerr said:

my score (9958-67fps) was 4k max w/ the Strix with max power & voltage setting.

Ooh, same GPU. Can't remember if I got the OC version or not, but if you adjusted yours that's probably why you're slightly ahead of me.

 

6 hours ago, bomerr said:

I wanted to see how my 5820k compared to a modern CPU.

Plenty enough not to hold things back, in this case. Also, 4k probably isn't be best scenario to compare CPU as it'll be GPU limited. To compare CPU, let's use lower settings like 1080p high (desktop):

Spoiler

FINAL FANTASY XIV: Shadowbringers Benchmark
Tested on:  24/5/2019 21:07:10
Score: 19135
Average Frame Rate: 155.0744
Minimum Frame Rate: 62
Performance: Extremely High
-Easily capable of running the game on the highest settings.
Loading Times by Scene
  Scene #1    0.906 sec
  Scene #2    1.776 sec
  Scene #3    2.606 sec
  Scene #4    1.776 sec
  Scene #5    0.865 sec
 Total Loading Time    7.929 sec

 

Screen Size: 1920x1080
Screen Mode: Full Screen
DirectX Version: 11
Graphics Presets: High (Desktop)

 

 

Gaming system: R7 7800X3D, Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming Wifi, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB, Corsair Vengeance 2x 32GB 6000C30, RTX 4070, MSI MPG A850G, Fractal Design North, Samsung 990 Pro 2TB, Acer Predator XB241YU 24" 1440p 144Hz G-Sync + HP LP2475w 24" 1200p 60Hz wide gamut
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2 hours ago, porina said:

Ooh, same GPU. Can't remember if I got the OC version or not, but if you adjusted yours that's probably why you're slightly ahead of me.

 

Plenty enough not to hold things back, in this case. Also, 4k probably isn't be best scenario to compare CPU as it'll be GPU limited. To compare CPU, let's use lower settings like 1080p high (desktop):

 

 

Spoiler

 

FINAL FANTASY XIV: Shadowbringers Benchmark
Tested on:  5/26/2019 3:34:28
Score: 18112
Average Frame Rate: 146.5885
Minimum Frame Rate: 56
Performance: Extremely High
-Easily capable of running the game on the highest settings.
Loading Times by Scene
  Scene #1    1.754 sec
  Scene #2    3.507 sec
  Scene #3    4.195 sec
  Scene #4    2.829 sec
  Scene #5    1.501 sec
 Total Loading Time    13.786 sec

DAT:s20190526033428.dat

Screen Size: 1920x1080
Screen Mode: Full Screen
DirectX Version: 11
Graphics Presets: Maximum

 

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Decided to run the benchmark on my system.

 

1080p, maximum settings:

Spoiler

FINAL FANTASY XIV: Shadowbringers Benchmark
Tested on:  5/23/2019 19:37:48
Score: 17513
Average Frame Rate: 120.838
Minimum Frame Rate: 55
Performance: Extremely High
-Easily capable of running the game on the highest settings.
Loading Times by Scene
  Scene #1    1.156 sec
  Scene #2    2.702 sec
  Scene #3    3.259 sec
  Scene #4    2.207 sec
  Scene #5    1.248 sec
 Total Loading Time    10.572 sec

 

 

1080p, high (desktop) settings:

Spoiler

FINAL FANTASY XIV: Shadowbringers Benchmark
Tested on:  5/26/2019 7:59:27
Score: 18262
Average Frame Rate: 127.8262
Minimum Frame Rate: 59
Performance: Extremely High
-Easily capable of running the game on the highest settings.
Loading Times by Scene
  Scene #1    1.173 sec
  Scene #2    2.703 sec
  Scene #3    3.342 sec
  Scene #4    2.186 sec
  Scene #5    1.245 sec
 Total Loading Time    10.649 sec

Not bad I guess. I know this game tends to prefer Nvidia hardware.

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

 

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@porina what storage do you have installed on? Your load times are blowing my 660p out of the water lol

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

 

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1 minute ago, Plutosaurus said:

@porina what storage do you have installed on? Your load times are blowing my 660p out of the water lol

The 9-ish second one is on Optane 900p. Any faster than that I probably turned off the "clear disk cache" option in benchmark so it loads from ram. Think I get down to around 7 seconds. I did that as I was benching a LOT and saving a few seconds here and there doesn't hurt. Load times doesn't affect the score.

Gaming system: R7 7800X3D, Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming Wifi, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB, Corsair Vengeance 2x 32GB 6000C30, RTX 4070, MSI MPG A850G, Fractal Design North, Samsung 990 Pro 2TB, Acer Predator XB241YU 24" 1440p 144Hz G-Sync + HP LP2475w 24" 1200p 60Hz wide gamut
Productivity system: i9-7980XE, Asus X299 TUF mark 2, Noctua D15, 64GB ram (mixed), RTX 3070, NZXT E850, GameMax Abyss, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB, random 1080p + 720p displays.
Gaming laptop: Lenovo Legion 5, 5800H, RTX 3070, Kingston DDR4 3200C22 2x16GB 2Rx8, Kingston Fury Renegade 1TB + Crucial P1 1TB SSD, 165 Hz IPS 1080p G-Sync Compatible

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