8700k or 4k?

[Kaine tyrie]

I am currently trying to decide whether to get a 4k monitor or an 8700k. The only thing that would stop me from getting the monitor is the fact that i wouldnt be able to run every game at high or ultra with a 6gb 1060...However i am leaning more towards the 8700k becuase then i can get a better gpu and 4k monitor in the future when they are not stupidly expensive.

 

Any and all suggestions very welcome.

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, Kaine tyrie said:

 

What's your current CPU?

You can just run games at 1080p on the 4k display without an issue.

[Kaine tyrie]

i currently have an i7-4790k at 4.0ghz with 16gb ddr3

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, Kaine tyrie said:

i currently have an i7-4790k at 4.0ghz with 16gb ddr3

Then there's really no reason to upgrade your CPU for gaming, I'd wait for Ryzen 3000 if you just want more cores.

 

Probably just grab any of the 4k IPS free-sync displays. Bigger the better if possible, 32" - 40" IMO

[Kaine tyrie]

Just now, Streetguru said:

Then there's really no reason to upgrade your CPU for gaming, I'd wait for Ryzen 3000 if you just want more cores.

 

Probably just grab any of the 4k IPS free-sync displays. Bigger the better if possible, 32" - 40" IMO

But surely if i cant get it running "smooth" in 4k then whats the point of having a 4k monitor

[Streetguru]

Just now, Kaine tyrie said:

But surely if i cant get it running "smooth" in 4k then whats the point of having a 4k monitor

Watching videos and general daily use?

As well you can run a lot of games at 4k, I ran Resident Evil 2 Remake at 4k on an RX 580 with like low-medium settings 45+ fps.

Plus whenever new GPUs come out or down in price you can just pick one of those up.

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, Kaine tyrie said:

But surely if i cant get it running "smooth" in 4k then whats the point of having a 4k monitor

 

but seriously speaking, your cpu is still fine, get a good cooler and overclock it

[Kaine tyrie]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

Watching videos and general daily use?

As well you can run a lot of games at 4k, I ran Resident Evil 2 Remake at 4k on an RX 580 with like low-medium settings 45+ fps.

Plus whenever new GPUs come out or down in price you can just pick one of those up.

Im sure that there will be a lot of 4k youtube videos happening but if i get a game e.g. ghost recon, then i would like to be able to play it at 4k in high-ish settings and my fear is that i wouldnt be able to do that

[Kaine tyrie]

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

 

but seriously speaking, your cpu is still fine, get a good cooler and overclock it

I have an ek fluid gaming cooler and get nothing over about 55 with ultra on all games...I am just scared of overclocking

[Stefan Payne]

10 minutes ago, Kaine tyrie said:

I am currently trying to decide whether to get a 4k monitor or an 8700k. The only thing that would stop me from getting the monitor is the fact that i wouldnt be able to run every game at high or ultra with a 6gb 1060...However i am leaning more towards the 8700k becuase then i can get a better gpu and 4k monitor in the future when they are not stupidly expensive.

 

Any and all suggestions very welcome.

How about neither and wait until next week?

As for the GPU:
You should have something like VEGA56 or so for 4K at least...

I 'm looking into a 4k HDR Screen as well. Haven't found a good deal at under 400€ or so. The good ones are a bit more expensive.

 

So why not get a new GPU first??

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, Kaine tyrie said:

I have an ek fluid gaming cooler and get nothing over about 55 with ultra on all games...I am just scared of overclocking

where are you scared of? as long as you keep voltage on the recommended range, the worst thing that can happen is that it gets unstable and shut off

 

then you restart, adjust a little and start again

[Stefan Payne]

9 minutes ago, Kaine tyrie said:

i currently have an i7-4790k at 4.0ghz with 16gb ddr3

That's fine, you shouldn't upgrade until the cards are on the table.

 

That said, I agree with @LukeSavenije A Freesync Screen is what you should be really looking for.

And if you don't have a console, the best is in the middle:
 

2560x1440p!!

That with a good Freesync Range screen is what you might want to take a look at.

 

As for Screen size:
27" is great for 1440p, I'd not go under 32" for 4k.

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, Stefan Payne said:

 

just to add

 

freesync works on nvidia now

[Kaine tyrie]

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

where are you scared of? as long as you keep voltage on the recommended range, the worst thing that can happen is that it gets unstable and shut off

 

then you restart, adjust a little and start again

I read something a while back it went something like if your cpu is doing what you want then why make it work faster, it is only damaging it

[Kaine tyrie]

Just now, LukeSavenije said:

just to add

 

freesync works on nvidia now

You might want to hit me after saying this but is freesync exactly?

[Kaine tyrie]

2 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

That's fine, you shouldn't upgrade until the cards are on the table.

 

That said, I agree with @LukeSavenije A Freesync Screen is what you should be really looking for.

And if you don't have a console, the best is in the middle:
 

2560x1440p!!

That with a good Freesync Range screen is what you might want to take a look at.

 

As for Screen size:
27" is great for 1440p, I'd not go under 32" for 4k.

Okay i dont htink i can go 32" i sit about 2-3ft away from my monitor i think 24-26 is as big as i can go...I currently have a 2560x1080 but will 1440 make that much of a difference?

[LukeSavenije]

2 minutes ago, Kaine tyrie said:

I read something a while back it went something like if your cpu is doing what you want then why make it work faster, it is only damaging it

if you do it wrong with like putting 2 volts through the core or something, but as long as you don't do stupid voltages, it won't damage anything

 

3 minutes ago, Kaine tyrie said:

You might want to hit me after saying this but is freesync exactly?

something that makes gameplay smoother when you aren't hitting 60+ (or your refresh rate of choice) fps. if you're in a certain range, you'll always have smooth gameplay

[Kaine tyrie]

2 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

if you do it wrong with like putting 2 volts through the core or something, but as long as you don't do stupid voltages, it won't damage anything

 

something that makes gameplay smoother when you aren't hitting 60+ (or your refresh rate of choice) fps. if you're in a certain range, you'll always have smooth gameplay

wow! okay so looking on a website is NVidia's version of this called G-Sync?

[Stefan Payne]

1 minute ago, Kaine tyrie said:

Okay i dont htink i can go 32" i sit about 2-3ft away from my monitor

I hate that Imperial stuff...

so around 60-90cm for the rest of the World.

Yeah, that's the normal stuff.

1 minute ago, Kaine tyrie said:

i think 24-26 is as big as i can go...I currently have a 2560x1080 but will 1440 make that much of a difference?

Not that much.

You have a bit more hight and better compatibility.

 

What Screen do you have right now?
Model Number and so...

 

But why you'd want a new screen??

 

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, Kaine tyrie said:

wow! okay so looking on a website is NVidia's version of this called G-Sync?

correct. but you can shop around for a freesync monitor too, even through this is a amd created technology, it's sort of supported on nvidia 1000+ series too. there's a verified list, but outside the list it normally works too

[Kaine tyrie]

3 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

What Screen do you have right now?
Model Number and so...

i currently have the cheapest lg ultrawide i could find:https://www.ebuyer.com/739141-lg-25um58-25-ultrawide-ips-gaming-monitor-25um58-p (it does the job)

 

2 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

I hate that Imperial stuff...

and you can blame my school for that ive got a mix of cm, feet and inches

 

3 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

But why you'd want a new screen??

because 4k...

[Kaine tyrie]

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

correct. but you can shop around for a freesync monitor too, even through this is a amd created technology, it's sort of supported on nvidia 1000+ series too. there's a verified list, but outside the list it normally works too

okay cool ill have to have a look around.

 

Prior to this, this was the monitor that i was looking at:https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B075CQ5Z8R?pf_rd_p=330fbd82-d4fe-42e5-9c16-d4b886747c64&pf_rd_r=5F9FVH3WZV0KPB45VNER

[LukeSavenije]

3 minutes ago, Kaine tyrie said:

okay cool ill have to have a look around.

 

Prior to this, this was the monitor that i was looking at:https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B075CQ5Z8R?pf_rd_p=330fbd82-d4fe-42e5-9c16-d4b886747c64&pf_rd_r=5F9FVH3WZV0KPB45VNER

well, that one does have freesync, so you're covered on that part

[Kaine tyrie]

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

well, that one does have freesync, so you're covered on that part

TBH i might get that and get new PSU, instead of the new cpu, ram and motherboard. This is mainly because ive never upgraded my pc without in the end having to completly just reset it.

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, Kaine tyrie said:

TBH i might get that and get new PSU, instead of the new cpu, ram and motherboard. This is mainly because ive never upgraded my pc without in the end having to completly just reset it.

yeah, and have some fun with overclocking to get a little higher, it's both fun and worth it. 

 

i can help on the psu too