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10 minutes ago, eman1000 said:

This looks great. So basically for strictly gaming (and without oc since I'm a noob), the 9600k will give me the best value over an i7 and the 2600x? The only thing is it's about $140 more to have a 9600k over a 2600x, but if it's better than it's worth it.

 

Edit: Also, does it matter if I get this case instead: NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case

I just like how it looks more and I don't care for RGB

That case is just fine. For the CPU, if you won't OC then I'd shift over to the 9400F for a lot cheaper. Much better value. It still beats the 2600x, but instead of being $140 more, it's $10 more (which is definitely worth the extra performance). Here's a revised build based on your feedback and with the tower you chose:

 

 

10 minutes ago, eman1000 said:

Wow, that is pretty magical at that price point - and 1440p! (but still would prefer intel if at all possible...)

Why? Intel has nothing on AMD but absolute raw performance with 0 proposition towards value or sensibility.

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2 minutes ago, SenpaiKaplan said:

Why? Intel has nothing on AMD but absolute raw performance with 0 proposition towards value or sensibility.

I guess the only reason is that I'm not familiar with AMD and all my friends run intel, so I figured it was more reputable

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14 minutes ago, eman1000 said:

Wow, that is pretty magical at that price point - and 1440p! (but still would prefer intel if at all possible...)

If you remove the monitor yeah its well under the $1500 budget. But as you can see here why Intel doesn't always offer best value, the 8700K is a beastly processor but with it comes extra cost of the cooler (K chips don't come with coolers, AMD are bundled with stock coolers) also Intel boards are more expensive and this is on top of the 8700K itself being expensive as it is.

 

Also had to drop slightly down to GTX 1660 Ti, though performance-wise its not far off a RTX 2070 tbh.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($365.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D14 64.95 CFM CPU Cooler  ($74.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Z390 Taichi ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($203.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($85.98 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($129.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card  ($279.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($63.04 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.97 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Dell - S2417DG 23.8" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($379.90 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1663.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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2 minutes ago, BigRom said:

If you remove the monitor yeah its well under the $1500 budget. But as you can see here why Intel doesn't always offer best value, the 8700K is a beastly processor but with it comes extra cost of the cooler (K chips don't come with coolers, AMD are bundled with stock coolers) also Intel boards are more expensive and this is on top of the 8700K itself being expensive as it is.

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Ohh, that explains why some builds I saw were leaving out CPU coolers. I see what you mean now, but this is still great value considering I planned on spending $1500 excluding peripherals. Basically, with all these builds, I'm having a hard time deciding what CPU/GPU combo I should go with. I just need something that will allow me to run 1080p 60fps max settings on most AAA online games.

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3 minutes ago, eman1000 said:

Ohh, that explains why some builds I saw were leaving out CPU coolers. I see what you mean now, but this is still great value considering I planned on spending $1500 excluding peripherals. Basically, with all these builds, I'm having a hard time deciding what CPU/GPU combo I should go with. I just need something that will allow me to run 1080p 60fps max settings on most AAA online games.

$1500 excluding peripherals? Well well look what we have here....

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($294.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($114.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($100.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($129.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB VENTUS Video Card  ($699.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($63.04 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.97 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1483.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Ryzen 2700X is slightly inferior to the 8700K, but AMD are way easier to overclock which should easily compensate for that

You also can fit the RTX 2080 into the budget, I highly doubt any AAA titles will trouble that thing.

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5 minutes ago, BigRom said:

$1500 excluding peripherals? Well well look what we have here....

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($294.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($114.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($100.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($129.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB VENTUS Video Card  ($699.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($63.04 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.97 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1483.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Ryzen 2700X is slightly inferior to the 8700K, but AMD are way easier to overclock which should easily compensate for that

You also can fit the RTX 2080 into the budget, I highly doubt any AAA titles will trouble that thing.

Well dang... I really think the most I need is a 2070, and I'd be willing to spend $50 more for an i7-8700k (rated higher on PCbenchmarks as well)

But please do keep in mind I am a noob, so I won't be doing stuff like overclocking or messing with stuff(not sure if that affects anything)

 

Edit: would a 1080 also be a good option?

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5 minutes ago, eman1000 said:

Well dang... I really think the most I need is a 2070, and I'd be willing to spend $50 more for an i7-8700k (rated higher on PCbenchmarks as well)

But please do keep in mind I am a noob, so I won't be doing stuff like overclocking or messing with stuff(not sure if that affects anything)

Sure, drop it down to a RTX2070 and you can get the 8700K. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($365.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D14 64.95 CFM CPU Cooler  ($74.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG MAXIMUS XI HERO (WI-FI) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($278.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($100.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($129.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB DUAL OC Video Card  ($469.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($63.04 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.97 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1563.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600  Heatsink: ID-Cooling Frostflow X GPU: Zotac GTX 1060 Mini 6GB RAM: KLEVV Bolt 3600Mhz (2x8GB) Mobo: ASUS B550-F ROG Strix (Wifi)  Case: Fractal Design Meshify C PSU: Deepcool DQ-M-V2L

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2 minutes ago, BigRom said:

Sure, drop it down to a RTX2070 and you can get the 8700K. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($365.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D14 64.95 CFM CPU Cooler  ($74.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG MAXIMUS XI HERO (WI-FI) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($278.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($100.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($129.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB DUAL OC Video Card  ($469.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($63.04 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.97 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1563.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Woah, that made the motherboard really expensive... did not see that coming

I've got a lot to learn

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Just now, eman1000 said:

Woah, that made the motherboard really expensive... did not see that coming

I've got a lot to learn

The ROG Maximus is basically one of the best boards for the Z390 chipset. There are actually even more expensive ones but I'm not sure if they are worth the premium over the already slightly insane ROG Maximus.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600  Heatsink: ID-Cooling Frostflow X GPU: Zotac GTX 1060 Mini 6GB RAM: KLEVV Bolt 3600Mhz (2x8GB) Mobo: ASUS B550-F ROG Strix (Wifi)  Case: Fractal Design Meshify C PSU: Deepcool DQ-M-V2L

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1 minute ago, BigRom said:

The ROG Maximus is basically one of the best boards for the Z390 chipset. There are actually even more expensive ones but I'm not sure if they are worth the premium over the already slightly insane ROG Maximus.

Interesting... did the motherboard have to be changed from the MSI one to accomodate the i7 or something?

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Just now, eman1000 said:

Interesting... did the motherboard have to be changed from the MSI one to accomodate the i7 or something?

AMD uses an AM4 socket, Intel uses their LGA1151. So different physical connectors for where you insert the CPU.

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10 minutes ago, BigRom said:

AMD uses an AM4 socket, Intel uses their LGA1151. So different physical connectors for where you insert the CPU.

Is this build I found any good? It seems to be exactly what I'm looking for

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type  Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor $294.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte - B360M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $69.89 @ OutletPC
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $79.99 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $59.78 @ OutletPC
Video Card EVGA - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB Black Video Card $499.99 @ Amazon
Case Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $59.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $52.98 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1142.61
  Mail-in rebates -$25.00
  Total $1117.61
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2 minutes ago, eman1000 said:

Is this build I found any good? It seems to be exactly what I'm looking for

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Try and refer to here for a guide to the different tiers of motherboards. The motherboard you picked while it will work with the 8700, its a very basic motherboard that was meant for more budget CPU like the lower end Celerons or i3/i5.

 

Also you might have to consider adding a CPU cooler, as Intel is notorious for their coolers being not quite up to the job at higher end CPUs and also where the value proposition for Intel sort of falls flat.

Also include an SSD as the boot time for Windows is massively faster with an SSD, I use a cheaper BX500 series from Crucial and I go from BIOS logo to Windows in like 3 seconds max

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($294.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D14 64.95 CFM CPU Cooler  ($74.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Killer SLI/ac ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($148.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($69.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($44.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB Black Video Card  ($499.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($52.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1326.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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3 minutes ago, BigRom said:

Try and refer to here for a guide to the different tiers of motherboards. The motherboard you picked while it will work with the 8700, its a very basic motherboard that was meant for more budget CPU like the lower end Celerons or i3/i5.

 

Also you might have to consider adding a CPU cooler, as Intel is notorious for their coolers being not quite up to the job at higher end CPUs and also where the value proposition for Intel sort of falls flat.

Also include an SSD as the boot time for Windows is massively faster with an SSD, I use a cheaper BX500 series from Crucial and I go from BIOS logo to Windows in like 3 seconds max

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($294.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D14 64.95 CFM CPU Cooler  ($74.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Killer SLI/ac ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($148.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($69.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($44.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB Black Video Card  ($499.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($52.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1326.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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This build looks great, looks like I'll either be going with this or its AMD CPU counterpart if I build

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19 minutes ago, eman1000 said:

In addition to what has already been said, that's a microATX motherboard paired with an tempered glass ATX case. It's going to look really puny in there. I was on a similar track with this build. It's around $1353 without the monitor.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($294.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Scythe - Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($51.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty B360 Gaming K4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($115.51 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($80.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($67.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($58.44 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($498.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Dark TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($94.99 @ Walmart)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.98 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Dell - S2417DG 23.8" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($379.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $1733.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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4 minutes ago, Bearmann said:

In addition to what has already been said, that's a microATX motherboard paired with an tempered glass ATX case. It's going to look really puny in there. I was on a similar track with this build. It's around $1353 without the monitor.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($294.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Scythe - Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($51.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty B360 Gaming K4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($115.51 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($80.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($67.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($58.44 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($498.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Dark TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($94.99 @ Walmart)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.98 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Dell - S2417DG 23.8" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($379.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $1733.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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This looks great, thanks for the input

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Newegg has some pretty good deals on components right now with emailed coupons, but they are nontransferable. You should sign up for Newegg emails.

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1 hour ago, SenpaiKaplan said:

Why? Intel has nothing on AMD but absolute raw performance with 0 proposition towards value or sensibility.

That's not really true. The 9400F is an amazing chip right now paired with a Gigabyte Z390 UD. It's only $10 or so more expensive for the motherboard/CPU than the Ryzen 5 2600 with a B450 board, and not only does the 9400F beat the 2600 across the board in gaming, it also beats the Ryzen 7 2700.

 

See here:

 

 

And here:

 

 

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11 hours ago, eman1000 said:

I really think the most I need is a 2070

For 1080p gaming, you're literally wasting about $700.

 

You've been suggested a build at the top of your price range with peripherals that would step you up to 1440p (far superior to what you're asking.) 

Every build on this post has been sufficient if not overkill for the task requested. You could literally do it for ~$700.

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3 hours ago, eman1000 said:

Wow, that is pretty magical at that price point - and 1440p! (but still would prefer intel if at all possible...)

But why ?

 

i used to think the same until I built my first Pc and used a AMD cpu. 

 

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14 hours ago, eman1000 said:

I guess the only reason is that I'm not familiar with AMD and all my friends run intel, so I figured it was more reputable

Your friends may all be running intel but are all your friends super knowledgeable about pc building or did all your friends each build their own pcs and consciously chose to specifically pick intel over AMD chips?

 

A lot of people on here have been recommending AMD chips. I'd say that's a better indicator of whether something is reputable than what your friends run.

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You guys are right, sorry for my arrogance. I'm here for help, so I'll take your word for AMD over intel.

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1 hour ago, eman1000 said:

You guys are right, sorry for my arrogance. I'm here for help, so I'll take your word for AMD over intel.

For strictly gaming, Intel WILL still be the best bet (as seen in my video above). Here's a good build:

 

Notice that the 2700x dips below 60 in Hitman while the 9600K remains above 60. The 9600K wins in every game.

 

It also beats the 8700K mostly:

 

 

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Intel is fine if you can find a comparably priced CPU, it is just rarely the case since all Ryzen CPUs are unlocked, almost all are SMT ready (AMD's hyperthreading), and even at the low price point, Ryzen is a quad core. 

 

For an unlocked quad core, it's already quite a bit more on the Intel side. 

 

So there is a lot of performance for your dollar in AMD. If your friends give you flak, they are ignorant and or snobs. You'll perform just as well.

 

3rd gen Ryzen is coming out soon, which will be pretty superior to what's out currently. So if you can wait til late summer, I would! 

 

Also as to the GPU, if you're doing 1080p gaming, really an RX 580, GTX 1060, or 1660ti is going to be PLENTY of GPU for you. You certainly don't need a 2070. That's for a larger res and higher refresh.

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