Networking issues please help!

[Chasewhip]

So I have recently decided to terminate the pre ran cat 5e in my walks. I have a network patch panel and have terminated all of them with cat 6 connectors as they are backwards compatible. I however have only been able to establish a connection with one of the cables that already had a keystone on the other end. It seems like all the keystones I have put in are not working st all. I am using cat 6 keystones for cat 5e wire because they are backwards compatible I was told. I have re terminated some of my connectors and have attempted to re punch the keystones wires with a higher force setting, however still no connection. I don’t know what to do or where to go from here as I am not sure if my keystones are the problem or what.

 

thabks in adncance

[Chasewhip]

I might also add I used a random brand of keystones. What do you recommend me getting it I need to get other ones?

 

Here is what the keystone looks like. Is it punched down correctly?

 I used a crappy Ethernet pin tester and it couldn’t read anything from the cable.

[ddennis002]

Looks like your wired up incorrectly, so referring to your picture and its current position yo should be wired up  like this.

 

White-Green          White-Brown

Green                     Brown

White-Blue              White Orange

Blue                        Orange

[mtz_federico]

7 hours ago, ddennis002 said:

Looks like your wired up incorrectly, so referring to your picture and its current position yo should be wired up  like this.

 

White-Green          White-Brown

Green                     Brown

White-Blue              White Orange

Blue                        Orange

As long as its the same on both sides its fine

[Tsuki]

redo both sides of the cable

[Chasewhip]

I don’t know what ends are the right ones as none are labeled. I think I did it to the wiring standard on the side (pictures)..

i sis redo any connector on the patch panel end that looked any but suspicious. Wouldn’t if I wired it wrong a cable tester would still find ar least a few pins? There’s nothing..

 

the cable below does connect, I don’t have access to the other one until I get home 

 

[Chasewhip]

Also what do I do if I don’t have enough cable in the socket to do another one if I fail it again? 

[Chasewhip]

I don’t know what to do from here should I get new keystones and try them? 

[Daimaou]

It might be the angle of your camera but 2,7,4 and maybe 8 look like the contacts have been pushed into the plastic. 

[Chasewhip]

That’s a difference cable I made to test but I’ll take a picture of the real one when I’m home 

[mariushm]

The order of the wires is not correct.

 

You want the same order at both ends, and you want the wires in such a way that they would match the connector when the connector is plugged in.

The order of the wires in a connector can be either of these:

 

 

also, you're using stranded ethernet cable with keystone sockets... which isn't a great idea, it's not recommended. Solid core wire ethernet cable works much better with punch down tools and keystone stuff. Stranded cable can compress or expand, the small wires can move around when you punch the insulated bundle inside the metal bits... it's not optimum.

 

Also ideally, keep the pairs twisted as much as possible.  Cut the insulation from the cable, then you have the four pairs, untwist the pairs so you have 4 pairs each with two wires still twisted together, then untwist only as much as needed. Ideally, you want less than 1cm of untwisted wires.

Nowadays, network cards are very powerful so how much you untwist matters less, but if you're a perfectionist you'll want as little as possible of untwisting.

 

[Chasewhip]

The block cable was made to test the keystone jack because I thought they were not working. That’s why it’s stranded cable. The first image (blue wire) is solid I think and that is the one I NEED to get working. I using the B standard and I don’t get what you mean by im wiring it wrong. Because it clearly said B on the bottom so I use the bottom color codes for the punch down. Is this wrong? I use the b standard everywhere. 

[kirashi]

2 hours ago, Chasewhip said:

Also what do I do if I don’t have enough cable in the socket to do another one if I fail it again? 

1 hour ago, Chasewhip said:

I don’t know what to do from here should I get new keystones and try them? 

You can attempt to re-terminate the cables again, ensuring the SAME termination standard (A or B) is used at both ends. After that, I recommend contacting an electrician or structured wiring specialist, especially if you don't have any more cable slack leftover. Keep in mind that unless you ran the cables yourself, you have no way to know whether a rodent chewed through the cable somewhere in the wall, so this could be a fruitless game, unless you're willing to rip out some drywall.

 

[Lurick]

1 hour ago, mariushm said:

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Please pay attention to the keystone and stop saying it's incorrect. They don't follow the same order for punching down compared to standard connectors but are wired correctly in the end.

[Chasewhip]

I will head up into the attick st one point and see if the wires are still connected. I don’t know if I’m terminating them in the keystones right though and I hope that it is that. The only cable that works right now is one that was terminated before I was there. Is there a way to test if the keystone is pinched down properly or what? 

[Lurick]

5 minutes ago, Chasewhip said:

I will head up into the attick st one point and see if the wires are still connected. I don’t know if I’m terminating them in the keystones right though and I hope that it is that. The only cable that works right now is one that was terminated before I was there. Is there a way to test if the keystone is pinched down properly or what? 

Any chance of getting pictures of the sides?

One way I've checked in the past is to give a gentle tug on the wires to see if they wiggle or pop out easily.

[Chasewhip]

I’m heading home right now I will take a picture of them 

[Chasewhip]

Here are the end song of the terminal . I also tried wiring another room but it also doesn’t work. Starting to think something is chewing on them up there 

[Chasewhip]

I just did another keystone and nothing so I’m pretty sure it’s somethinf in the walls 

[Chasewhip]

Should I terminate one of them with a regular male connector and see if that works?

[Chasewhip]

My main thing is like if my keystones are not working for some pins, wouldn’t my pin tester show the other pins working?

[mynameisjuan]

That's solid core (probably aluminum) which means your punchdown might actually by breaking wire.

 

If you have RJ45 try those and they should work.

[Chasewhip]

I terminated them with regular connectors and they still don’t work so I’m assuming something is wrong with the wire in the wall 

[beavo451]

Also, are you sure the cables go where you think they are going?

 

12 hours ago, mynameisjuan said:

That's solid core (probably aluminum) which means your punchdown might actually by breaking wire.

 

If you have RJ45 try those and they should work.

Punchdowns need solid core.

[mynameisjuan]

5 hours ago, beavo451 said:

Also, are you sure the cables go where you think they are going?

 

Punchdowns need solid core.

I know that, that's why I mentioned aluminum. A mistake people make is buying cheap solid core which is aluminum and that shit snaps so easily