AMD Ryzen 5 2600 vs. Intel core i5 8400

[ZZZach167]

So I am building a gaming PC for the first time, and I need a good budget processor. I think either the AMD Ryzen 2600 or the Intel i5 8400. I am running this with a GeForce gtx 1070ti and 16gb ram. Here is my part picker list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZK4t29 Any suggestions?

 

[Crunchy Dragon]

2600 is way better price/performance than the 8400.

 

Plus the 12 threads are nice to have should you decide to pick up streaming at some point.

[DrMacintosh]

3 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Plus the 12 threads are nice to have should you decide to pick up streaming at some point.

or tile based rendering  

[DrMacintosh]

Easily the 2600

[Taf the Ghost]

3 minutes ago, ZZZach167 said:

So I am building a gaming PC for the first time, and I need a good budget processor. I think either the AMD Ryzen 2600 or the Intel i5 8400. I am running this with a GeForce gtx 1070ti and 16gb ram. Here is my part picker list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZK4t29 Any suggestions?

 

Need a different Boot SSD. 

 

Budget options: Team Group L5 Lite 3D or Adata SU800; 

Best Options: Crucial MX500 and Samsung 860 Evo

 

NVMe options are out there, but they're kind of overkill, honestly.

 

3000 or higher memory.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$164.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard	$93.88 @ OutletPC
Memory	G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$90.98 @ Newegg Business
Storage	Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$67.95 @ B&H
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$59.89 @ OutletPC
Case	NZXT - H500 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case	$76.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	EVGA - BR 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$44.89 @ OutletPC
Other	Sceptre E255B-1658A 24.5" 165Hz 144Hz 1ms Gaming LED Monitor 2X HDMI 1x DP(DisplayPort), Metal Black 2019	$209.99 @ Walmart
Other	Geforce 1070 ti	$300.00
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1144.56
	Mail-in rebates	-$35.00
	Total	$1109.56
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-18 23:38 EST-0500

I'd go for a "better" PSU, but I don't know the actual quality of that one. How much room in your budget do you have?

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Need a different Boot SSD. 

What is wrong with that SSD? 

[hello_there_123]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

What is wrong with that SSD? 

DRAMless 

[Taf the Ghost]

1 minute ago, hello_there_123 said:

DRAMless 

Correct. DRAM is really important for Boot SSDs because of the Swap file that Windows uses.

 

@DrMacintosh and the price/performance/lifespan difference is always worth the very minimal cost difference. 

[Crunchy Dragon]

4 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

or tile based rendering  

True that, Cinebench is a good example of that.

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, Crunchy Dragon said:

True that, Cinebench is a good example of that.

My stock clocked 2600 rendered this in 9 min

Spoiler

Makes my 4690K look like a graphing calculator. 

[hello_there_123]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$164.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Thermaltake - Contac Silent 12 74.33 CFM CPU Cooler	$23.64 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard	$114.89 @ OutletPC
Memory	G.Skill - Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$89.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Team - L5 LITE 3D 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$49.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$59.89 @ OutletPC
Case	NZXT - H500 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case	$76.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair - RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$52.00 @ Newegg
Monitor	Acer - ED242QR Abidpx 23.6" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor	$169.99 @ Amazon
Other	Geforce 1070 ti	$300.00
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1149.37
	Mail-in rebates	-$47.00
	Total	$1102.37
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-18 23:42 EST-0500

-Aftermarket cooler for overclocking 

-Better quality motherboard, pro4 also tends to have a high DOA rate. You'll get the same performance on the b450 gaming plus but the tomahawk has better vrms for $15 so if you're gonna upgrade to 3rd gen in the future, the tomahawk is a better buy.

-3000mhz memory for literally the same price

-Better SSD

-Much, much better PSU. The BQ is trash, and the RMX is close to top tier consumer PSU (whisper m / straight power 11 are the best consumer grade PSUs because of their multi rail, rmx is marginally worse, with the G2 and Focus+ following) 

-Cheaper monitor

[viceice]

R5 2600 for sure. i5 8400 dead cpu for new games that utilizes many threads. 

[zhubaohi]

Wanna add more info here.

2600 is better, unless you are playing certain titles.

World of warcraft, for example, have better performance on 8400. Starcraft 2 is the same.

If you only play these 2 games, then you need to get 8400, or even 8350k for better single-core performace.

If not, then 2600 is a no-brainer.

[Stefan Payne]

8 hours ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Need a different Boot SSD. 

 

Budget options: Team Group L5 Lite 3D or Adata SU800; 

Best Options: Crucial MX500 and Samsung 860 Evo

 

NVMe options are out there, but they're kind of overkill, honestly.

 

3000 or higher memory.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$164.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard	$93.88 @ OutletPC
Memory	G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$90.98 @ Newegg Business
Storage	Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$67.95 @ B&H
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$59.89 @ OutletPC
Case	NZXT - H500 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case	$76.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	EVGA - BR 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$44.89 @ OutletPC
Other	Sceptre E255B-1658A 24.5" 165Hz 144Hz 1ms Gaming LED Monitor 2X HDMI 1x DP(DisplayPort), Metal Black 2019	$209.99 @ Walmart
Other	Geforce 1070 ti	$300.00
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1144.56
	Mail-in rebates	-$35.00
	Total	$1109.56
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-18 23:38 EST-0500

I'd go for a "better" PSU, but I don't know the actual quality of that one. How much room in your budget do you have?

Nice Setup, except for the PSU.

As for GPU: At this point in time, you might want to look at VEGA as well, as they can be gotten rather cheaply. If you plan on Watercooling, 260€ is the introduction with a Blower VEGA.

 

8 hours ago, ZZZach167 said:

So I am building a gaming PC for the first time, and I need a good budget processor. I think either the AMD Ryzen 2600 or the Intel i5 8400. I am running this with a GeForce gtx 1070ti and 16gb ram. Here is my part picker list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZK4t29 Any suggestions?

 

In some titles the 2600 is far better than the 8400, as there are already some that eat CPU Power for Breakfast. For example the newest Assasin's Creed Games.

That will only increase.

And also with AMD its more probable that you get a nice Upgrade Path wich you don't get on the other side...