Performance vs Upgradability

[Anthony Roosevelt]

Performance:

i5 2500

Asus P8H67

8GB 1600MHz DDR3

RX 560 2GB

Samsung 860 Evo 250GB

Acer KG251QF (144Hz)

 

Upgradability:

R3 2200G

ASRock B450 Pro 4

8GB 3200MHz DDR4

Samsung 860 Evo 250GB

LG 24MK600M (75Hz)

 

Both cost the same ($450), which one should I get?

P.S. I play League of Legends, R6S, CS:GO, PUBG, Fortnite.

[zlolslavez]

I'm not confident in the 2500/RX560's ability to drive a 144HZ monitor. I personally would go with the second build. Remember dual channel memory, so possibly upgrade your board a bit and pick up 2x4 RAM so you can go up to 16 later possibly?

[Jurrunio]

Do you already have the i5-2500, board and memory?

[mxk]

Easily the upgradability, at least I think with Zen 2 on the way.

[Anthony Roosevelt]

18 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Do you already have the i5-2500, board and memory?

No I don't.

[Anthony Roosevelt]

21 minutes ago, zlolslavez said:

I'm not confident in the 2500/RX560's ability to drive a 144HZ monitor. I personally would go with the second build. Remember dual channel memory, so possibly upgrade your board a bit and pick up 2x4 RAM so you can go up to 16 later possibly?

It will be capable of driving 144fps+ on games like League, CS:GO, R6S, and Fortnite (with optimized settings). I've tested it on my friend's pc, and he only has i5 2400. And yes, it's 2x4GB 3200MHz DDR4.

[.Apex.]

48 minutes ago, Anthony Roosevelt said:

Performance:

i5 2500

Asus P8H67

8GB 1600MHz DDR3

RX 560 2GB

Samsung 860 Evo 250GB

Acer KG251QF (144Hz)

 

Upgradability:

R3 2200G

ASRock B450 Pro 4

8GB 3200MHz DDR4

Samsung 860 Evo 250GB

LG 24MK600M (75Hz)

 

I think both of these PC's are extremely hard to choose between, personally i would wait and save up more and get something better if i'm planning on playing other future games and AAA titles, but if you want to play the same games all the time then sure get the first build.

Either way with the second PC, you're gonna have to buy a GPU and replace the CPU because the 2200G is not exactly "enough" for future AAA titles and such.

 

[TrigrH]

41 minutes ago, zlolslavez said:

pick up 2x4 RAM so you can go up to 16 later possibly?

but then you lose frequency running 4 dimms on ryzen

[Jurrunio]

28 minutes ago, Anthony Roosevelt said:

No

I'd prefer upgradability then. I mean, either you start on a new platform now, or the next time when you upgrade the 2500. It's not like the RX 560 is so strong that it doesnt need upgrade for a couple of years playing this caliber of games.

[Anthony Roosevelt]

38 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I'd prefer upgradability then. I mean, either you start on a new platform now, or the next time when you upgrade the 2500. It's not like the RX 560 is so strong that it doesnt need upgrade for a couple of years playing this caliber of games.

Yeah that's exactly my thoughts. The value of 2500 will be even worse when I have to sell it in the future, but with R3 2200G, I will have to play on a 75Hz monitor. And with 2500, I won't need to upgrade my monitor, but I have to upgrade/change the cpu, mobo, and ram. Either invest in monitor or mobo.

[Anthony Roosevelt]

Hmmmmm

[Jurrunio]

26 minutes ago, Anthony Roosevelt said:

Yeah that's exactly my thoughts. The value of 2500 will be even worse when I have to sell it in the future, but with R3 2200G, I will have to play on a 75Hz monitor. And with 2500, I won't need to upgrade my monitor, but I have to upgrade/change the cpu, mobo, and ram. Either invest in monitor or mobo.

I'd invest in CPU platform. I dont mind having two monitors while only gaming on one. TN's colour reproduction is plenty terrible too so having a different monitor for watching videos is nice.

[Anthony Roosevelt]

10 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

I'd invest in CPU platform. I dont mind having two monitors while only gaming on one. TN's colour reproduction is plenty terrible too so having a different monitor for watching videos is nice.

Alright, I'll go with R3 2200G & 24MK600M. I'll have to sell this monitor If I want to buy a 144Hz monitor in the future haha...

[Anthony Roosevelt]

Btw thanks for the help guys!

[SolarNova]

1st option for sure.

 

its outright better to start with as it has a dedicated GPU, and if u ever find urself needing mroe cores u can pick up a super cheap i7 'used'.

[Anthony Roosevelt]

20 hours ago, SolarNova said:

1st option for sure.

 

its outright better to start with as it has a dedicated GPU, and if u ever find urself needing mroe cores u can pick up a super cheap i7 'used'.

Do you think 3770K will be able to handle games like.. let's say Fortnite in the next 3 years?

[Anthony Roosevelt]

20 hours ago, SolarNova said:

1st option for sure.

 

its outright better to start with as it has a dedicated GPU, and if u ever find urself needing mroe cores u can pick up a super cheap i7 'used'.

For the GPU I'll probably upgrade to Navi.

[SolarNova]

2 hours ago, Anthony Roosevelt said:

Do you think 3770K will be able to handle games like.. let's say Fortnite in the next 3 years?

Whilst there is most certainly a performance difference between 2nd gen (2000 series) and 3rd gen (3000 series) CPU's and the current generation, they are still more than capable of handling any modern game. Their top end FPS will obviosly be lower but they are never going to bottleneck a game heavily enough to matter to most, and thats onyl when comparing against Intels modern day lineup.

The 3770 does infact perform similarly to a ryzen 5 in games due to the similar single thread performance, the Ryzen pulls ahead in multithread workloads which can use more than 8 threads.

2 hours ago, Anthony Roosevelt said:

For the GPU I'll probably upgrade to Navi.

If thats the case then regardless of which system u choose , when u get to that point ur likely going to need to upgrade the CPU, be it a 2500 to a 3770 (asuming the motherboard has a Bios Update available to accept the 3770) , or a 2200g to a 2600. The only difference really is the cost involved as it owuld be comparing buy new vs used, and ofc the fact one system has a dedicated higher performing GPU in the meantime.

 

 

Bassicaly what im saying is, by the time you've upgraded the CPU in both and added the same Navi GPU in both. The end result will be very close in terms of your average gaming experience.  The only real difference is how they play before said upgrades, which obviosly the Intel system will do better thanks to the GPU. Also the monitor.

[Anthony Roosevelt]

16 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

Bassicaly what im saying is, by the time you've upgraded the CPU in both and added the same Navi GPU in both. The end result will be very close in terms of your average gaming experience.  The only real difference is how they play before said upgrades, which obviosly the Intel system will do better thanks to the GPU. Also the monitor.

I agreed with that, all I need is only 4C/8T (at least for 5 years from now) because I only play League & CS:GO (and some other older games actually), if something goes wrong I have no problem adjusting some settings in-game.