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Lord Slorgi
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I'm looking to buy a new monitor that is 1440p with 144hz refresh rate. as it stands I really only have the budget for either a g-sync TN panel or non g-sync IPS panel. I am using them for gaming, netflix, youtube, etc. I'm not a seriously competitive gamer, i play some competitive multiplayer games but more RPG or single player games that I feel the color of IPS would benefit (Monster Hunter World, The Witcher, Destiny 2). The only monitor I could get within budget that has both IPS and G-sync would be the Acer Predator XB271HU. Should I buy that one and use all of my budget or save some money and drop one of these features?

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Why not the (cheaper) Freesync monitor?

With the new driver, all pascal (10) and turing (20) can use freesync.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3333637/components-graphics/nvidia-driver-freesync-monitor-support-geforce-graphics-cards.html

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I have a XB271HU and love it, its a fantastic display. Great for gaming, great for content consumption, great for photo editing, and just all around love it.

 

If you can afford it, I genuinely do think gsync is a better option than freesync, but I also haven't seen newer freesync panels nor have I seem them driven by a geforce GPU. I had a freesync monitor a few years ago with my R9 290, and it was "one of the good" freesync models, I forget which, but gsync felt far superior. And as you can see from my sig, I have more than 1 gsync monitor.... lol. To me its worth it for gaming, it really is quite a big improvement. I would be interested to see a newer freesync monitor though, but from what experience I do have gsync works better, and the panels are typically better quality.

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9 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

Why not the (cheaper) Freesync monitor?

With the new driver, all pascal (10) and turing (20) can use freesync.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3333637/components-graphics/nvidia-driver-freesync-monitor-support-geforce-graphics-cards.html

So how would I be able to know what range a monitor I buy uses? I see lots of monitors with multiple ranges.

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2 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

I have a XB271HU and love it, its a fantastic display. Great for gaming, great for content consumption, great for photo editing, and just all around love it.

 

If you can afford it, I genuinely do think gsync is a better option than freesync, but I also haven't seen newer freesync panels nor have I seem them driven by a geforce GPU. I had a freesync monitor a few years ago with my R9 290, and it was "one of the good" freesync models, I forget which, but gsync felt far superior. And as you can see from my sig, I have more than 1 gsync monitor.... lol. To me its worth it for gaming, it really is quite a big improvement. I would be interested to see a newer freesync monitor though, but from what experience I do have gsync works better, and the panels are typically better quality.

Getting this monitor is the option I am leaning to. Mainly because it is everything I want. No compromises.

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6 minutes ago, Lord Slorgi said:

So how would I be able to know what range a monitor I buy uses? I see lots of monitors with multiple ranges.

what range, adaptive refresh rate range? Unfortunately you will have to go through specs on websites to find out. With an RTX 2080, a range of 72Hz to 144Hz is already more than enough. Any larger will be a good bonus.

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5 minutes ago, Lord Slorgi said:

So how would I be able to know what range a monitor I buy uses? I see lots of monitors with multiple ranges.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YI0RQcymJSY0-LkbjSRGswWpJzVRuK_4zMvphRbh19k/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true#

 

This is not the officially supported freesync monitor, but most freesync monitor will do it, with manual settings.

Some worked perfectly and some have glitches.

Check the list before buying one.

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32 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

what range, adaptive refresh rate range? Unfortunately you will have to go through specs on websites to find out. With an RTX 2080, a range of 72Hz to 144Hz is already more than enough. Any larger will be a good bonus.

so the adaptive refresh range is just something set on the monitor itself?

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39 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YI0RQcymJSY0-LkbjSRGswWpJzVRuK_4zMvphRbh19k/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true#

 

This is not the officially supported freesync monitor, but most freesync monitor will do it, with manual settings.

Some worked perfectly and some have glitches.

Check the list before buying one.

Looking at the Asus MG279Q it has multiple listed ranges. 1 range just says the monitor was OCed and the other says it was altered with CRU. I'm not sure how to get those things to work. or if it is worth risking that over just buying the one g-sync i can afford.

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10 minutes ago, Lord Slorgi said:

so the adaptive refresh range is just something set on the monitor itself?

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3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

yes

Well if that's the case it seems like that would be the best deal. According to that reddit list the MG279Q works with 35-90 by default and works seamlessly at 57-144. That seems like a pretty acceptable range to me, I dont think I will fall below it for more than a frame or two. This might have saved me like $100.

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9 minutes ago, Lord Slorgi said:

Looking at the Asus MG279Q it has multiple listed ranges. 1 range just says the monitor was OCed and the other says it was altered with CRU. I'm not sure how to get those things to work. or if it is worth risking that over just buying the one g-sync i can afford.

I don't know about monitor OC, but a CRU is Custom Resolution Utility, meaning you can add a custom size resolution other than the default one.

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9 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

Why don't you just ctrl+f "working".

Well after looking at the actual reddit thread I found the guys post, he said he used CRU to manually set the range to 57-144 and it worked perfectly, several others replied saying they had the same results and under 57 it just doubled refresh rate to prevent tearing. So I think I will just go with that one, seems like a pretty good deal to me.

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