windows Windows drive defragmentation (And its problems)

[FoxOfWar]

So... where to start?...

a while ago I finally got an SSD for my Laptop 

and it's was one of the best upgrades ever

windows boots in less than 3 Secs

the problem is that sometimes when I leave my Laptop in its dock for to long without using it 

it crashes; I managed to fix these crashes by disabling defragmentation for my SSD in Windows Drive Settings

I think that is a major problem because it uses up drive cycles on SSD's. I think windows should only defrag SATA Drives and not M.2 Drives

What's your opinion on that topic?

[Mira Yurizaki]

Windows from 8 and on is smart enough to not run defragging on an SSD. Even though SSDs show up on the defrag utility and it says "Optimize", all it's doing is forcing the TRIM command.

 

And just to nitpick here:

4 minutes ago, Yuno said:

I think windows should only defrag SATA Drives and not M.2 Drives

SATA is a communication protocol (and a connector standard, but that's not important here), there are M.2 SATA SSDs.

[FoxOfWar]

2 minutes ago, Mira Yurizaki said:

And just to nitpick here:

SATA is a communication protocol (and a connector standard, but that's not important here), there are M.2 SATA SSDs.

 

I was talking about the connector in this case but I guess I should have said SATA Connector 

[Mira Yurizaki]

3 minutes ago, Yuno said:

I was talking about the connector in this case but I guess I should have said SATA Connector 

You can find SSDs that use the SATA connector, but it's still an SSD and you shouldn't defrag them.

[Enderman]

How did you install windows on the SSD?

You're using windows 10 right?

[FoxOfWar]

Just now, Enderman said:

How did you install windows on the SSD?

You're using windows 10 right?

I just put in my Installer DVD into the DVD drive and installed windows like normal

[Turtle Rig]

It is 2019 why are we talking about HDD defragging.  That is a cardinal sin.

[porina]

There might be one reason to want to defrag a SSD, and that reason is filesystem fragmentation. While it doesn't matter much where the data is on the drive, you can get excessive fragmentation in the logical filesystem and that can slow Windows down. Now, this is in theory only. I've never taken any action on this myself, but I saw it in MS documentation a while back.

[Mira Yurizaki]

4 minutes ago, porina said:

There might be one reason to want to defrag a SSD, and that reason is filesystem fragmentation. While it doesn't matter much where the data is on the drive, you can get excessive fragmentation in the logical filesystem and that can slow Windows down. Now, this is in theory only. I've never taken any action on this myself, but I saw it in MS documentation a while back.

This is the first time I heard about this so I dug around. I found this: https://www.hanselman.com/blog/TheRealAndCompleteStoryDoesWindowsDefragmentYourSSD.aspx

 

In short: yes SSDs do get fragmented and yes there are parts of the contents of data that need to be tidied up once in a while, but at the end of the day, Windows knows how to take care of the SSD so you shouldn't worry about it.

[TopHatProductions115]

SSDs don't undergo defragmentation. As @Mira Yurizaki has stated, they undergo TRIM. Please have a look:

• https://www.pcworld.com/article/3188460/storage/when-to-check-defrag-and-optimize-storage-devices.html
• https://blog.oo-software.com/en/defragmentation-and-ssds-opportunities-and-risks

I hope that you find these readings helpful. Do have a good day...