Ryzen 1700 with GTX 1050 Bottleneck??

[faizannoor]

I have a Intel Pentium G4560 and GTX 1050

I have 460 CAD to spend on my PC and I wanted to upgrade my CPU. Would a Ryzen 1700 be fine as it is on sale for $270 CAD right now and with the motherboard I would be spending 350 which is better than a 7700 going for 380 alone. I am not too aware of the effects of bottlenecking so I am not sure what to do... I want to use my PC for gaming, streaming and normal use. 

[LukeSavenije]

it will bottleneck, but there's nothing wrong with bottlenecking over getting something less and have a bottleneck later

 

what are the prices on the 1600 and 2600 for you?

[Fasauceome]

5 minutes ago, faizannoor said:

which is better than a 7700 going for 380 alone

Because of the age of the CPU, it's not great to consider getting it new. Intel CPUs never drop in value over time, costing basically as much if not more than when they launched. If you can get a 7700 that isn't new, it would be a better value but I'm not opposed to a good Ryzen upgrade.

 

Just make sure you don't get a really cheap AMD motherboard.

[faizannoor]

2 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

it will bottleneck, but there's nothing wrong with bottlenecking over getting something less and have a bottleneck later

 

what are the prices on the 1600 and 2600 for you?

the 1600 is 230 and 2600 is 240. i dont know much about AMD but i want to have a good cpu for gaming and streaming and normal computer use.

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, faizannoor said:

the 1600 is 230 and 2600 is 240. i dont know much about AMD but i want to have a good cpu for gaming and streaming and normal computer use.

well, for streaming those 2 extra cores come in pretty nicely. I would just get a 1700 with a good cheap b450 like the pro4 and get a better gpu down the line

[faizannoor]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

Because of the age of the CPU, it's not great to consider getting it new. Intel CPUs never drop in value over time, costing basically as much if not more than when they launched. If you can get a 7700 that isn't new, it would be a better value but I'm not opposed to a good Ryzen upgrade.

 

Just make sure you don't get a really cheap AMD motherboard.

i didnt spend a lot of money on my intel motherboard and it seemed to work fine and i found an AMD motherboard with similar specs on clearance for cheaper. whats bad about it?

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_1207_1205_1505&item_id=111651

[faizannoor]

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

well, for streaming those 2 extra cores come in pretty nicely. I would just get a 1700 with a good cheap b450 like the pro4 and get a better gpu down the line

so what quality do you think i could stream up to on a game like Fortnite, I have a 60hz monitor so i usually cap my frames at 60 but without it capped i get around 90 - 120 but i wasnt able to stream higher than 720p30 on a 3000 bitrate

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, faizannoor said:

so what quality do you think i could stream up to on a game like Fortnite, I have a 60hz monitor so i usually cap my frames at 60 but without it capped i get around 90 - 120 but i wasnt able to stream higher than 720p30 on a 3000 bitrate

well... even light games like fortnite are hard to stream on a higher bitrate. you could get a cheaper cpu and upgrade your gpu for encoding on that, but for the 30 dollar difference I would just get the 1700 right away for it and try it on that

[dizmo]

If you're looking at older generation stuff, look at the used market. There's really no reason to be buying new stuff, and you can save a ton of money since you're on a pretty strict budget. Of course the video card will bottleneck the CPU. It's extremely weak compared to the high end CPU you're looking at.

Look for a used 1600/x, and AMD board, and go from there.

 

10 minutes ago, faizannoor said:

i didnt spend a lot of money on my intel motherboard and it seemed to work fine and i found an AMD motherboard with similar specs on clearance for cheaper. whats bad about it?

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_1207_1205_1505&item_id=111651

You won't be able to overclock on this board, making the CPU rather...lethargic. AMD needs high clocks to compete with Intel.

[faizannoor]

13 minutes ago, dizmo said:

If you're looking at older generation stuff, look at the used market. There's really no reason to be buying new stuff, and you can save a ton of money since you're on a pretty strict budget. Of course the video card will bottleneck the CPU. It's extremely weak compared to the high end CPU you're looking at.

Look for a used 1600/x, and AMD board, and go from there.

 

You won't be able to overclock on this board, making the CPU rather...lethargic. AMD needs high clocks to compete with Intel.

isnt there a risk of buying used computer components?

[dizmo]

7 minutes ago, faizannoor said:

isnt there a risk of buying used computer components?

No more than buying new computer components. You still get the warranty, and if you're using Paypal, you're covered there as well.

[Fasauceome]

1 hour ago, faizannoor said:

i didnt spend a lot of money on my intel motherboard and it seemed to work fine and i found an AMD motherboard with similar specs on clearance for cheaper. whats bad about it?

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_1207_1205_1505&item_id=111651

A320 is really bad cheap stuff, you need a B350 at least if you plan on feeding a power hungry CPU like that 8 core. I recommend avoiding A320 at all costs.