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Why amd RX580-590 is cheap?

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If you compare them to GTX 1060 its really cheap, why? because of build quality or underwhelming performance?

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Because nVidia is a premium brand, if either are cheaper go with them they are actually slightly better performing.

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1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

Because nVidia is a premium brand, if either are cheaper go with them they are actually slightly better performing.

But there was a vid that was about how cheap the amd components is in graphic cards,is that really true? like nvidia is using better components than amd etc?
 

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Just now, StanicEnemy said:

But there was a vid that was about how cheap the amd components is in graphic cards,is that really true? like nvidia is using better components than amd etc?
 

nVidia and AMD only does the graphical processing chip, and their reference card (in this case yes the nVidia Founders Edition reference card is superior to the AMD Reference card).

 

All the other cards are manufactured by third party like EVGA, MSi, Zotac, Sapphire, XFX, ASUS and so on... where only the graphical processing chip is either AMD / nVidia and all the rest is from those brands listed to decide on.

 

They will have more premium cards than others then it's up to you to find what you want.

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Just now, Princess Cadence said:

nVidia and AMD only does the graphical processing chip, and their reference card (in this case yes the nVidia Founders Edition reference card is superior to the AMD Reference card).

 

All the other cards are manufactured by third party like EVGA, MSi, Zotac, Sapphire, XFX, ASUS and so on... where only the graphical processing chip is either AMD / nVidia and all the rest is from those brands listed to decide on.

 

They will have more premium cards than others then it's up to you to find what you want.

Which manufactured would you recommend when it comes to rx 580 or 590?

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Just now, StanicEnemy said:

Which manufactured would you recommend when it comes to rx 580 or 590?

Sapphire does the best AMD cards.

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From AMD the refence pcb for rx480 and vegas they are really good but the coolers are useless, so they have really good config for the vrm layout but what kills the performance is the blower style cooler.

 

Brands to chose for amd cards are Saphire and powercolor they normaly have the best cards.

 

Asus strix for amd means expencive and normaly the same performance.

 

Cards to get now new is rx590 from saphire and Rx vega 56 from saphire or powercolor they are really good value.

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26 minutes ago, StanicEnemy said:

If you compare them to GTX 1060 its really cheap, why? because of build quality or underwhelming performance?

One of the other reasons is 580 was a better mining card than 1060,so when mining craze began amd made more and more 580's.Nvidia did this with thier 1070's& 1080's which was better at mining than 1060.So amd & nvidia has lot of surplus of cards.Since 1060 has a little performance lead against 580,amd has to sell cheaper than 1060(+ to sell out extra gpu stock) contribute to the price drop

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27 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

nVidia and AMD only does the graphical processing chip, and their reference card (in this case yes the nVidia Founders Edition reference card is superior to the AMD Reference card).

 

All the other cards are manufactured by third party like EVGA, MSi, Zotac, Sapphire, XFX, ASUS and so on... where only the graphical processing chip is either AMD / nVidia and all the rest is from those brands listed to decide on.

 

They will have more premium cards than others then it's up to you to find what you want.

Ehhhhhhhhhhh, depends. 
Vega reference PCB is absolute overkill, hard to see how Nvidia could compete with that. 

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2 hours ago, Quadriplegic said:

Vega reference PCB is absolute overkill, hard to see how Nvidia could compete with that. 

FE of a 1080 Ti also has a premium PCB, but with a considerably better performing cooler, in fact the FE cooler on the 1080 Ti is the best blower cooler yet, entirely made of vapor chambers and more extra area from ditching DVI and such.

 

But not really the matter...

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