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First time builder, can I get some refinement tips on my hypothetical build?

1. Budget & Location

USA, approximately $1300 if I can help it. Already went over by $100 with my current build. Whoops.

 

2. Aim

Warframe, Photoshop, Minecraft, Maybe a bit of modded Skyrim (maybe I'll actually finish it this time). Also, consistent performance while multitasking would be wonderful. I'm aiming to give the build an overall White and Black color scheme.

 

3. Monitors

Just one. 144Hz, 1920x1080 will be fine considering my budget. I don't need anything extreme.

 

4. Peripherals

I'll be using my current windows activation, Windows 10 Home 64x. Already have a super cheap Logitech k120, and my old Razer Naga 2012 that's still going strong. Had to replace the wire a year or two ago, but it still works.

 

5. Why are you upgrading?

I'm currently using my old laptop, The Aspire E 15 (E5-573G-52G3). Here's a convenient link for specs: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834315131

I've got a 250GB 2'5" SSD inside of it (Kingston SH103S3/240G), and I'm very accustomed to the speed of it now, was super stoked when I realized I could transfer it over from my older Asus G74SX. Still, I have mild inconsistency with frames on practically everything I run, and I just want everything to snap onto the screen like magic. My CPU often gets overworked, with it reaching 25% to 35% just with my standard background programs open (Discord, Firefox, Wallpaper Engine, and Rainmeter). My memory is even worse, sitting at 48% as I type. My GPU is also slightly overworked, but I can probably chalk that up to setting the default graphics processor to the 940M I have in Nvidia Control Panel. (Should probably manually set each program...)

 

I'm building a new computer because I want to finally go back to the tower days (but without the constant viruses because I was a fool) when I could just open it up and give it a nice dusting, and not have to undo 20 different screws set in multiple layers. It'd be nice to have (what I'd consider at this point) a supercomputer.  I'm posting here because I'd love to get this list refined, it's likely overkill since I don't really play any semi-modern games (Maybe Witcher 3, don't know yet since it doesn't run well with this laptop). Last time I owned a desktop, it was pre-HDMI, so I'm itching to return.

 

Here's the build list I've cobbled together. Again, any tips or advice you're willing to give to me, I'll consider it all.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant


CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor $160.98 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $29.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-GAMING 3 ATX AM4 Motherboard $84.89 @ OutletPC
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $119.99 @ Newegg
Storage: Western Digital - Black NVMe 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $119.89 @ OutletPC
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $44.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8 GB GAMING Video Card $364.98 @ Newegg
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox 5 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case $68.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $114.89 @ OutletPC
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit Purchased For $98.89
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter $36.81 @ OutletPC
Monitor: Acer - GN246HL 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $197.99 @ B&H
Keyboard: Logitech - K120 Wired Standard Keyboard Purchased For $8.99
Mouse: Razer - Naga 2012 Wired Laser Mouse Purchased For $0.00
Other: TP-LINK AV500 Nano Powerline Adapter Starter Kit, up to 500Mbps (TL-PA4010KIT) $37.99 @ Amazon
Other: APEVIA AF512S-BK 4 Pin & 3 Pin Silent Case Fan Best Value, 120mm, Black, 5 Piece $15.74 @ Newegg
Other: CAT 6 Ethernet Cable (10 Feet) LAN, UTP (3 Meters) CAT6, RJ45, Network, Patch, Internet Cable - 2 Pack (10 ft) $7.99 @ Amazon
Other: Nippon Labs CT-4MINI-BK Nippon Labs 4" Mini Cable Ties Black Color 100pcs/Bag - OEM  $4.63 @ Newegg

 

Base Total: $1468.57      
Mail-in Rebates: -$70.00      
Shipping: $11.97      
Total (Not Yet Purchased): $1410.54
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Get the 2600 over the 1700x. Otherwise it looks OK. You don't need that expensive of a psu unless you really just want  that one, but I don't see the point. If you go Freesync you can find great deals on Vega cards right now. 

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor $165.98 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $29.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard $93.88 @ OutletPC
Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $119.99 @ Newegg
Storage Western Digital - Black NVMe 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $119.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $44.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8 GB GAMING Video Card $364.98 @ Newegg Business
Case Cooler Master - MasterBox 5 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case $68.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $59.99 @ B&H
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit Purchased For $98.89
Wireless Network Adapter Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter $36.81 @ OutletPC
Monitor Acer - GN246HL 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $197.99 @ B&H
Keyboard Logitech - K120 Wired Standard Keyboard Purchased For $8.99
Mouse Razer - Naga 2012 Wired Laser Mouse Purchased For $0.00
Other TP-LINK AV500 Nano Powerline Adapter Starter Kit, up to 500Mbps (TL-PA4010KIT) $37.99 @ Amazon
Other APEVIA AF512S-BK 4 Pin & 3 Pin Silent Case Fan Best Value, 120mm, Black, 5 Piece $15.74 @ Newegg
Other CAT 6 Ethernet Cable (10 Feet) LAN, UTP (3 Meters) CAT6, RJ45, Network, Patch, Internet Cable - 2 Pack (10 ft) $7.99 @ Amazon
Other Nippon Labs CT-4MINI-BK Nippon Labs 4" Mini Cable Ties Black Color 100pcs/Bag - OEM $4.63
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1547.51
  Mail-in rebates -$70.00
  Total $1477.51
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-02 22:10 EST-0500  

Ryzen 3800X + MEG ACE w/ Radeon VII + 3733 c14 Trident Z RGB in a Custom Loop powered by Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium
PSU Tier List | Motherboard Tier List | My Build

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3 hours ago, tomswife said:

Get the 2600 over the 1700x. Otherwise it looks OK. You don't need that expensive of a psu unless you really just want  that one, but I don't see the point. If you go Freesync you can find great deals on Vega cards right now. 

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Thanks for finding that cheaper power supply. I chose what I did because at the time I thought that was a good deal, but this blows it out of the water. Also, I'm digging the alternative motherboard choice! The colors (or... lack of color?) are a lot more fitting, and the AMD StoreMI feature looks like it'll be handy. Is the Ryzen 5 2600 better in some way than the Ryzen 7 1700x? Currently, the 7 1700X is $5 cheaper, and from what I could find on cpubenchmark it looks to be at least slightly more powerful. Is it a compatibility or optimization thing? Perhaps the 1700x was the experimental start of a new generation and the 2600 was the end of a more polished previous generation?

 

I'm quite used to Nvidia GPUs and the control panel that comes with them, how easy do you think it'd be to make the switch and, outside of utilizing the monitor's freesync feature what are the other pros to switching?

 

Seriously, thanks for the tweaks. It's awesome how quick of a response that was. Sorry for the odd formatting, for some reason pcpartpicker wasn't giving me any markup outside of the reddit one so I just winged it.

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($160.98 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Scythe - SCNJ-4000 84.64 CFM CPU Cooler  ($39.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($65.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($67.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($44.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX VEGA 64 8 GB Video Card  ($409.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 275R (White w/Tempered Glass) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($54.88 @ OutletPC) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  (Purchased For $98.89) 
Monitor: Acer - ED242QR Abidpx 23.6" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor  ($179.99 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: Logitech - K120 Wired Standard Keyboard  (Purchased For $8.99) 
Mouse: Razer - Naga 2012 Wired Laser Mouse  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Other: TP-LINK AV500 Nano Powerline Adapter Starter Kit, up to 500Mbps (TL-PA4010KIT)  ($37.99 @ Amazon) 
Other: APEVIA AF512S-BK 4 Pin & 3 Pin Silent Case Fan Best Value, 120mm, Black, 5 Piece  ($15.74 @ Newegg) 
Other: CAT 6 Ethernet Cable (10 Feet) LAN, UTP (3 Meters) CAT6, RJ45, Network, Patch, Internet Cable - 2 Pack (10 ft)  ($7.99 @ Amazon) 
Other: Nippon Labs CT-4MINI-BK Nippon Labs 4" Mini Cable Ties Black Color 100pcs/Bag - OEM  ($4.63)
Total: $1398.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-03 01:37 EST-0500

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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5 hours ago, WolfHero said:

Thanks for finding that cheaper power supply. I chose what I did because at the time I thought that was a good deal, but this blows it out of the water. Also, I'm digging the alternative motherboard choice! The colors (or... lack of color?) are a lot more fitting, and the AMD StoreMI feature looks like it'll be handy. Is the Ryzen 5 2600 better in some way than the Ryzen 7 1700x? Currently, the 7 1700X is $5 cheaper, and from what I could find on cpubenchmark it looks to be at least slightly more powerful. Is it a compatibility or optimization thing? Perhaps the 1700x was the experimental start of a new generation and the 2600 was the end of a more polished previous generation?

 

I'm quite used to Nvidia GPUs and the control panel that comes with them, how easy do you think it'd be to make the switch and, outside of utilizing the monitor's freesync feature what are the other pros to switching?

 

Seriously, thanks for the tweaks. It's awesome how quick of a response that was. Sorry for the odd formatting, for some reason pcpartpicker wasn't giving me any markup outside of the reddit one so I just winged it.

The 2600 is an overall better, faster, processor as its been revised since the first gen and doesn't carry a lot of the issues that plagued the first gen. It has better IPC, faster single and quad core speeds. It only lacks multi core speed because the 1700x has 2 extra cores, of which are not necessary unless you can find a reason you need it such as video editing and if you don't need it then I strongly urge you to choose the newer, better generation. If you reduced the 1700x to 6 cores it shouldn't even be a consideration over the better 2600, which is superior in every way. A quick Google search "2600 VS 1700x" will shed more light on the subject. Also the 2600 is on par with the 2600X with a simple overclock, I have the 2600X and was only getting the 2600 until I found the 2600X for the same price. 

 

The motherboard, I was just trying to find a cheap alternative that's 2nd gen ready out of  the box and has great reviews. 

 

I think the Radeon software is better and ahead of the Nvidia software and feels much more premium. You get an all around better experience with AMD, software wise. Wattman is a great tool that comes with Radeon and you can pretty much adjust settings on the fly in game without ever exiting or alt tabbing out, it also allows you to monitor basic statistics in game. My laptop uses a 1060 and judging from that, AMD is on point when it comes an intuitive, easy to use interface. Software wise, I would choose AMD all day. This mostly boils down to personal preference. From what I understand, Freesync is indeed worth it, unless you have a gsync monitor, then Nvidia becomes the better choice. You're more than fine with the 1070 ti, though, and I think it's only worth switching if you can get a Vega at a good price. I just bought the Liquid Cooled Vega 64 from Newegg for $499. The driver support has improved to the point that Vega 64 beats the 1080 in a lot of cases and gets close to the 1080 ti. I'm also using a 4k display so Freesync will be beneficial to me as it's hard for any graphics card at that resolution. Either card will be fine for your situation, Nvidia is great for gaming so you can't go wrong either way. 

Ryzen 3800X + MEG ACE w/ Radeon VII + 3733 c14 Trident Z RGB in a Custom Loop powered by Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium
PSU Tier List | Motherboard Tier List | My Build

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