What should I upgrade first?

[LilChicken]

I'm looking to upgrade my PC as a temporary fix until I can get a new one and was wondering what I should upgrade as the components are all quite bad and out of date.

 

CPU: AMD FX-4300

Motherboard: ASUS M5A9 R2.0

Memory 8GB DDR3

Storage: 1TB Hardrive

Graphics: Nvidia GeForce GTX 960 2GB (ZOTAC)

 

So overall a god awful machine that makes a lot of noise, what should I do :o?

[Jurrunio]

check the power supply first, what model is that? This one first, unless it's actually ok

 

the CPU motherboard and RAM follows, this fixes the performance

 

after that, add SSD and replace the most likely worn out fans

 

the graphics card the last, or even stay as is as it is only a little worse than the 1050ti

[lervayy]

yikes

 

ermm..

 

List of components to upgrade:

CPU
MOBO
Memory
Storage

SSD

GPU

[Willowwizard]

What do you usually do with it? Your GPU is honestly still very good.

The only bottlenecks I see are the CPU (It's quite literally just as fast as my laptop, which isn't good news for a Desktop processor) and the hard drive.

 

The first thing I'd recommend you to upgrade is probably the hard drive. Get an SSD and install Windows on it, use the hard drive only for storage or for larger programs that won't fit on the SSD. The difference in performance is like night and day

[LilChicken]

12 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

check the power supply first, what model is that? This one first, unless it's actually ok

 

the CPU motherboard and RAM follows, this fixes the performance

 

after that, add SSD and replace the most likely worn out fans

 

the graphics card the last, or even stay as is as it is only a little worse than the 1050ti

The power supply is a Corsair VS450 not sure how good this is lol.

 

12 minutes ago, lervayy said:

yikes

 

ermm..

 

List of components to upgrade:

CPU
MOBO
Memory
Storage

SSD

GPU

That is the plan aha as soon as I get a job I'll be buying a whole new one.

 

12 minutes ago, TakataruMC said:

What do you usually do with it? Your GPU is honestly still very good.

The only bottlenecks I see are the CPU (It's quite literally just as fast as my laptop, which isn't good news for a Desktop processor) and the hard drive.

 

The first thing I'd recommend you to upgrade is probably the hard drive. Get an SSD and install Windows on it, use the hard drive only for storage or for larger programs that won't fit on the SSD. The difference in performance is like night and day

I play games on it just its become quite sluggish I was thinking of getting an SSD and new CPU but not sure which one to get

[Zando_]

12 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

check the power supply first, what model is that? This one first, unless it's actually ok

 

the CPU motherboard and RAM follows, this fixes the performance

 

after that, add SSD and replace the most likely worn out fans

 

the graphics card the last, or even stay as is as it is only a little worse than the 1050ti

^^^ This. No need to get a new one all in one go, advantage of building your own PC is that you can slowly upgrade over time and eventually you'll have a totally new system.

 

Like I went from a dual core pentium and 1050 Ti to an i5, then got a 980 Ti, then swapped out the CPU and mobo with an X58 Xeon, then got a new case, better PSU, eventually Ryzen, then a 1080, and now a Vega FE (and 1080 Ti in another rig with an 8600K). All accumulated over time by either just buying new as I had the money or finding good deals. No need to ever do it all in one go.

[LilChicken]

8 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

^^^ This. No need to get a new one all in one go, advantage of building your own PC is that you can slowly upgrade over time and eventually you'll have a totally new system.

 

Like I went from a dual core pentium and 1050 Ti to an i5, then got a 980 Ti, then swapped out the CPU and mobo with an X58 Xeon, then got a new case, better PSU, eventually Ryzen, then a 1080, and now a Vega FE (and 1080 Ti in another rig with an 8600K). All accumulated over time by either just buying new as I had the money or finding good deals. No need to ever do it all in one go.

Good idea however I want to go all out on a new system that will last me a while whilst i have no financial obligations before I head off to university.

[Zando_]

7 minutes ago, LilChicken said:

Good idea however I want to go all out on a new system that will last me a while whilst i have no financial obligations before I head off to university.

Also a good plan, I've done some stuff in big chunks, latest big chunk is a custom watercooling loop for my Vega rig. What's your budget for upgrades though, when will you get a new PC and what's your budget for that?

[LilChicken]

23 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Also a good plan, I've done some stuff in big chunks, latest big chunk is a custom watercooling loop for my Vega rig. What's your budget for upgrades though, when will you get a new PC and what's your budget for that?

The upgrades really im just looking for christmas presents that my parents will buy lol and for a whole new rig i'll spend around £3000 hopefully

[Zando_]

4 minutes ago, LilChicken said:

The upgrades really im just looking for christmas presents that my parents will buy lol and for a whole new rig i'll spend around £3000 hopefully

Nice. Could go for something like this as a decent upgrade:

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Nsh3kd
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Nsh3kd/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2 GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£92.00 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£80.26 @ More Computers)
Memory: G.Skill - FORTIS 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (£98.39 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£47.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £318.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-15 16:47 GMT+0000

 

4c/8t Ryzen chip, cheapest actually decent B350 mobo, cheap RAM and a budget PSU (ran a 980 Ti and i5 off my CX450M so a 960 and smol Ryzen chip is easy). Could snag a decent 120GB SSD too. Once you get your new system before uni you can keep this as a secondary or give it to a friend or something.

[LilChicken]

12 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Nice. Could go for something like this as a decent upgrade:

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Nsh3kd
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Nsh3kd/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2 GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£92.00 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£80.26 @ More Computers)
Memory: G.Skill - FORTIS 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (£98.39 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£47.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £318.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-15 16:47 GMT+0000

 

4c/8t Ryzen chip, cheapest actually decent B350 mobo, cheap RAM and a budget PSU (ran a 980 Ti and i5 off my CX450M so a 960 and smol Ryzen chip is easy). Could snag a decent 120GB SSD too. Once you get your new system before uni you can keep this as a secondary or give it to a friend or something.

oooo very nice I'll probably give this to my brother, at the moment he is playing on a ps4 ew lmao or keep it for redundancy

[Jurrunio]

5 hours ago, LilChicken said:

The power supply is a Corsair VS450 not sure how good this is lol.

oh dear, this thing is not built to last.Get something tier C or higher

Wattage still depends on the final form of the machine. 650W is as high as it needs to be for the best hardware though.

[LilChicken]

4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

oh dear, this thing is not built to last.Get something tier C or higher

Wattage still depends on the final form of the machine. 650W is as high as it needs to be for the best hardware though.

I'm starting to realise my mistake of going with a pre-built machine...

 

I'm probably going to go with the "Corsair - CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply" as suggested by Zando should the 450W be enough for this?

[Jurrunio]

20 minutes ago, LilChicken said:

I'm starting to realise my mistake of going with a pre-built machine...

 

I'm probably going to go with the "Corsair - CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply" as suggested by Zando should the 450W be enough for this?

450w is enough for now and can power all mid range hardware, but for 3000 EUR I expect something more power hungry.

[LilChicken]

54 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

450w is enough for now and can power all mid range hardware, but for 3000 EUR I expect something more power hungry.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	£389.95 @ AWD-IT
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML240R RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	£102.99 @ Box Limited
Motherboard	ASRock - Z390 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	£108.99 @ Ebuyer
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	£331.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage	ADATA - ULTIMATE SU650 960 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	£113.54 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Toshiba - P300 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	£66.23 @ Amazon UK
Video Card	Zotac - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB GAMING AMP Video Card	£1199.98 @ Novatech
Case	Fractal Design - Define R6 Blackout TG ATX Mid Tower Case	£148.49 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply	EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	£109.98 @ Ebuyer
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£2572.14
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-15 22:35 GMT+0000

 

I'll probably go for something like this when I buy my new system

[Jurrunio]

6 minutes ago, LilChicken said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	£389.95 @ AWD-IT
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML240R RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	£102.99 @ Box Limited
Motherboard	ASRock - Z390 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	£108.99 @ Ebuyer
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	£331.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage	ADATA - ULTIMATE SU650 960 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	£113.54 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Toshiba - P300 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	£66.23 @ Amazon UK
Video Card	Zotac - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB GAMING AMP Video Card	£1199.98 @ Novatech
Case	Fractal Design - Define R6 Blackout TG ATX Mid Tower Case	£148.49 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply	EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	£109.98 @ Ebuyer
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£2572.14
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-15 22:35 GMT+0000

 

I'll probably go for something like this when I buy my new system

We'll have more to talk when you finally decide to put the hammer down, but you don't need that much memory for gaming, that big of a DRAM-less SSD, and should spend more on the motherboard and a reliable cooler instead

[LilChicken]

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

We'll have more to talk when you finally decide to put the hammer down, but you don't need that much memory for gaming, that big of a DRAM-less SSD, and should spend more on the motherboard and a reliable cooler instead

Thanks for the advice, I'm looking to get this machine around February so I have time to refine the selection. Atm I've gone off of a build guide on PC Part picker lol