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Hi peeps!

 

I was looking to upgrade my system. It has a I5-4460, 8GB of ram and a GTX 970. Since I don't have enough money now to upgrade the system at one time.

 

I was thinking about upgrading my GPU first and thought about buying a MSI GTX 1070 8GB. If I upgrade this first, will I encounter huge bottlenecks because of the CPU or isn't it that bad?

 

If you have any further recommendations regarding upgrading my PC piece by piece. Please let me know!

 

~Tim

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3 minutes ago, Timmyethy123 said:

Hi peeps!

 

I was looking to upgrade my system. It has a I5-4460, 8GB of ram and a GTX 970. Since I don't have enough money now to upgrade the system at one time.

 

I was thinking about upgrading my GPU first and thought about buying a MSI GTX 1070 8GB. If I upgrade this first, will I encounter huge bottlenecks because of the CPU or isn't it that bad?

 

If you have any further recommendations regarding upgrading my PC piece by piece. Please let me know!

 

~Tim

well right now you can get a pretty nice cpu for 160 usd and that is the ryzen 5 2600

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2 minutes ago, Timmyethy123 said:

But that means I have to replace my motherboard as well since it's a different socket

 

You will have to replace them anyways if you upgrade now. The mainstream socket has changed.

Get a gpu first, and then, if u face any issues, upgrade your cpu. Should not be a problem though, I'm absolutely fine with gtx 1060 and i5 2500.

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3 minutes ago, Timmyethy123 said:

But that means I have to replace my motherboard as well since it's a different socket

 

a new mother board for the ryzen would run you about 70 to 80 but i would recomend doing so or if you really want to you can wait for ryzen 3 to come out in a few months

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With that CPU you shouldn't experience bottlenecks except some cpu heavy games like battlefield.

8 minutes ago, Timmyethy123 said:

Hi peeps!

 

I was looking to upgrade my system. It has a I5-4460, 8GB of ram and a GTX 970. Since I don't have enough money now to upgrade the system at one time.

 

I was thinking about upgrading my GPU first and thought about buying a MSI GTX 1070 8GB. If I upgrade this first, will I encounter huge bottlenecks because of the CPU or isn't it that bad?

 

If you have any further recommendations regarding upgrading my PC piece by piece. Please let me know!

 

~Tim

 

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1 minute ago, paprikman said:

You will have to replace them anyways if you upgrade now

I7 4770 anyone?

 

I foresee a bottleneck, my brother's 7400 bottlenecks his 970 so I think in modern, more CPU intensive games, you'll be constrained.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 11 and Fedora Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

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5 minutes ago, wojtepanik said:

 

Ah yes, the classic BS bottleneck "calculator," doing what nobody can do and throwing out a useless number to represent something that can't be represented by a single numerical value in any meaningful way.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 11 and Fedora Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

PSU tier list

How many watts do I need?

PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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Just now, fasauceome said:

Ah yes, the classic BS bottleneck "calculator," doing what nobody can do and throwing out a useless number to represent something that can't be represented by a single numerical value in any meaningful way.

you call me bullshit, when you are the one claiming that you can bottleneck 970 with i5 7400 XD

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Just now, wojtepanik said:

you call me bullshit, when you are the one claiming that you can bottleneck 970 with i5 7400 XD

I have a PC that does so, it's a physical object that I have used to test that bottleneck. Not sure what rule you seem to be following that says it can't happen.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 11 and Fedora Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

PSU tier list

How many watts do I need?

PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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maybe you paired it with 1333mhz ddr3 h110 board? 7400 is enough for 1070 easily with normal ram config, other stuff doesn't really matter

3 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

I have a PC that does so, it's a physical object that I have used to test that bottleneck. Not sure what rule you seem to be following that says it can't happen.

 

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9 minutes ago, wojtepanik said:

maybe you paired it with 1333mhz ddr3 h110 board? 7400 is enough for 1070 easily with normal ram config, other stuff doesn't really matter

 

In all cases, no matter what? Not sure why you'd think in such absolute terms about the performance of just a quad core, a budget quad core from 2 generations ago at that. Just because you think a 7400 is "enough for a 1070" doesn't mean you've actually made a system and played a ton of games on it and analyzed its performance (because guess which one of us has done that). You should immediately stop using the Bottleneck Calculator, because if you believe it its efficacy, you might as well download some more ram.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 11 and Fedora Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

PSU tier list

How many watts do I need?

PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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5 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

you might as well download some more ram.

this reminds me of the day that we had the one soul who bought a 570, downloaded drivers and got it to show as a 580... he downloaded the gpu. 

 

gotta believe and you can download that ram ? 

Rig 1: i7-9700k OC'd to 5.0ghz all core | EVGA XC RTX 2080Ti | ADATA DDR4 2400mhz 4x8gb | ASUS PRIME Z370-P | Asetek 550LC 120mm | ADATA 480GB SSD & Toshiba P300 3TB | Cooler Master Masterbox MB500 | Win 10 Home | Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum, G502 Proteus Spectrum, G933 Artemis Spectrum Snow Wireless Limited Edition, Corsair MM300 Mouse Pad | 2 MSI Optix Curved 27" FHD Monitors 

 

(before i sold the WD drive and MSI gpu - https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/11946219 171 gaming. felt good.)

 

Rig 2: i7-7700k Stock clocks | MSI Armor GTX 1070 | ADATA DDR4 2400mhz 2x8GB | MSI Z270 A-Pro | WD Green 240GB SSD & 2TB Seagate HDD | Thermaltake Core G21 Tempered Glass Edition | Win 10 Home | 2 HP Omen FHD 144hz 24.5" Monitors 

 

Rig 3: i7-6700 | GT 730 & GT 645 OEM | Some random DDR4 2133mhz 2x8gb sticks | OEM Dell Mobo | WD Black 2TB HDD & Toshiba 1TB HDD | Win 10 Home | 3 27" Dell FHD Monitors 

 

Rig 4: i7-4770 | EVGA SSC 1050ti | Some random DDR3 ram 2x2gb and 2x4gb sticks | OEM Dell Mobo | Stock Cooler | 1TB WD Black HDD | Win 7 Home 

 

RIP 

 

Rig 5 (dead and dismantled and sold) : i7-7820X OC'd to 4.8ghz all core | MSI DUKE 1080ti | ADATA DDR4 2400mhz 4x8gb | Gigabyte X299 UD4 PRO | Asetek 240mm AIO | WD Green 240gb SSD | Other various components that I can't remember

 

Rig 6 (same fate as rig 5) : i7-8700k stock clocks | MSI DUKE 1080ti | ADATA DDR4 2400mhz 2x8gb | MSI Z370 A-Pro | Asetek 550LC 120mm | WD Green 240GB SSD & Toshiba 2TB HDD | Other various components that I can't Remember 

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