NEED OPINION ON HEATSINK

[Noob Builder]

Hi so as you can guess by my username I am not the most experienced builder, however I feel like I did a good job building my first PC. I wanted to ask if the CoolMaster Hyper 212 EVO was going to be a powerful enough air cooler for the Intel i7-9700k at stock and then O.C. Help me out please!

[Slottr]

At stock, yeah. Won't be too helpful in overclocking though

[Firewrath9]

No, a better cooler for OC would be the cryorig H5 ultimate or noctua u12s.

[Fasauceome]

Stock will work, and since the cpu is soldered, you might be able to OC a bit if you get a good chip 

[Jurrunio]

No that's a cooler you use for things that is bearable with the Intel 73w stock cooler, just somehow didn't. To overclock a 9700k you will be looking at big heatsinks like the Cryorig R1 (Ultimate > Universal), Noctua NH-D15 or be quiet Dark Rock Pro4. On liquid side of things there's the Corsair H110i / H115i or EVGA CLC 280 or NZXT X62

[GoldenLag]

Full system specs?

[Noob Builder]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

Full system specs?

CPU: Intel i7-9000k

Heatsink: Coolmaster Hyper 212 Evo

GPU: Gigabyte GTX970

Storage: Samsung 1TB SSD

Motherboard: ASUS Prime Z390-P LGA 1151 (300 Series)

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000

[Jurrunio]

Just now, Noob Builder said:

Motherboard: ASUS Prime Z390-P LGA 1151 (300 Series)

[Noob Builder]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Whats wrong with it?

[GoldenLag]

2 minutes ago, Noob Builder said:

CPU: Intel i7-9000k

Heatsink: Coolmaster Hyper 212 Evo

GPU: Gigabyte GTX970

Storage: Samsung 1TB SSD

Motherboard: ASUS Prime Z390-P LGA 1151 (300 Series)

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000

You really should prioritize getting a better GPU rather than CPU and Cooler, etc. Because this just isnt nice to look at in terms of cost balancing and prioritizations

 

Why 32GB of memmory? Why overkill PSU? 

 

There is a lot i want to nitpick here

[GoldenLag]

Just now, Noob Builder said:

Whats wrong with it?

Its a motherboard that should never have been made to fit 9000 series CPUs......

[Noob Builder]

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

You really should prioritize getting a better GPU rather than CPU and Cooler, etc. Because this just isnt nice to look at in terms of cost balancing and prioritizations

 

Why 32GB of memmory? Why overkill PSU? 

 

There is a lot i want to nitpick here

32 GB of ram just so i never have to worry about getting more because I host servers sometimes and want to have a speedy server. Also what do you mean the motherboard shouldn't have been made to fit the 9000 series CPU? And the 970 because I don't feel like spending upwards of a grand for a GPU, just don't have the money for it right now. 

[GoldenLag]

2 minutes ago, Noob Builder said:

Also what do you mean the motherboard shouldn't have been made to fit the 9000 series CPU?

VRM is what you would call shamefull for the price they charge for the motherboard and what kind of product category they place it in. Also you cant really overclock on it.

3 minutes ago, Noob Builder said:

32 GB of ram just so i never have to worry about getting more because I host servers sometimes and want to have a speedy server

What servers? You can get better value and use of cheaper hardware like the 2700x whoch handles multithreaded loads better with it actually having SMT/HT. 

 

4 minutes ago, Noob Builder said:

And the 970 because I don't feel like spending upwards of a grand for a GPU, just don't have the money for it right now. 

You can spend a lot less than a grand and get a much better experience than the 970 offers.

[Noob Builder]

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

VRM is what you would call shamefull for the price they charge for the motherboard and what kind of product category they place it in. Also you cant really overclock on it.

What servers? You can get better value and use of cheaper hardware like the 2700x whoch handles multithreaded loads better with it actually having SMT/HT. 

 

You can spend a lot less than a grand and get a much better experience than the 970 offers.

I already had the 970. 

[Jurrunio]

16 minutes ago, Noob Builder said:

Whats wrong with it?

weak VRMs. VRM refers to components used to power components, in this case I'm talking about those powering the CPU. They are too weak for the 9700k.

 

3 minutes ago, Noob Builder said:

I already had the 970. 

He meant upgrading the 970 along with the CPU and mobo and cooler after shaving off cost from other places.

[Noob Builder]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

weak VRMs. VRM refers to components used to power components, in this case I'm talking about those powering the CPU. They are too weak for the 9700k.

 

He meant upgrading the 970 along with the CPU and mobo and cooler after shaving off cost from other places.

So are you saying they aren't compatible or is my CPU just going to be running much lower on stock settings compared to other motherboards. 

[GoldenLag]

7 minutes ago, Noob Builder said:

I already had the 970. 

What CPU did you have?

 

Also even then it makes more sence to spice it up. Get a 8 core 16 thread CPU for VMs and Servers etc and still have leftover for GPU of neccesary.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($269.00 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($114.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($229.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Total: $613.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-07 18:44 EST-0500

 

Something like this leaves a lot more open to GPU upgrades and fulfill your requirements easy. Even though i still find 32GB of Ram being silly as im shure 6GB of Ram out of 16GB is lore than enough for your VM/server

[Noob Builder]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

What CPU did you have?

 

Also even then it makes more sence to spice it up. Get a 8 core 16 thread CPU for VMs and Servers etc and still have leftover for GPU of neccesary.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($269.00 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($114.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($229.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Total: $613.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-07 18:44 EST-0500

 

Something like this leaves a lot more open to GPU upgrades and fulfill your requirements easy. Even though i still find 32GB of Ram being silly as im shure 6GB of Ram out of 16GB is lore than enough for your VM

I dislike AMD Processors and I had a i7-5000k i think

[Noob Builder]

4 minutes ago, Noob Builder said:

So are you saying they aren't compatible or is my CPU just going to be running much lower on stock settings compared to other motherboards. 

What motherboard would you have recommended for me?

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, Noob Builder said:

had a i7-5000k i think

Do you have the full name?

I am just going to assume its a 4 core 8 thread

2 minutes ago, Noob Builder said:

I dislike AMD Processors

Any specific reason why? The tables have turned the last few years. Especially for your usecase

[Jurrunio]

7 minutes ago, Noob Builder said:

So are you saying they aren't compatible or is my CPU just going to be running much lower on stock settings compared to other motherboards. 

the VRMs just run uncomfortably hot, possibly throttling the CPU back to keep itself alive.

 

5 minutes ago, Noob Builder said:

I dislike AMD Processors and I had a i7-5000k i think

If you came from the 5820k or 5930k there's no need for a new platform yet, just get a 5960X or 6900k. With hyperthreading they are both faster than the 9700k

 

@GoldenLag 5000k are all 6 core 12 thread Haswell-E parts

[Noob Builder]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

Do you have the full name?

I am just going to assume its a 4 core 8 thread

Any specific reason why? The tables have turned the last few years. Especially for your usecase

I do not have a full name and yes it was a 4 core 8 thread, and just their performances compared to intel.

[Noob Builder]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

the VRMs just run uncomfortably hot, possibly throttling the CPU back to keep itself alive.

 

If you came from the 5820k or 5930k there's no need for a new platform yet, just get a 5960X or 6900k. With hyperthreading they are both faster than the 9700k

 

@GoldenLag 5000k are all 6 core 12 thread Haswell-E parts

Fuck, that really fucked my mood I shouldve done more research. 

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, Noob Builder said:

I do not have a full name and yes it was a 4 core 8 thread, and just their performances compared to intel.

So 4/5th gen parts i assume.

 

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

@GoldenLag 5000k are all 6 core 12 thread Haswell-E parts

Ik that, but from what i could gather he had a quadcore.

 

 

Though he has a lot better options open for him

[Noob Builder]

4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

the VRMs just run uncomfortably hot, possibly throttling the CPU back to keep itself alive.

 

If you came from the 5820k or 5930k there's no need for a new platform yet, just get a 5960X or 6900k. With hyperthreading they are both faster than the 9700k

 

@GoldenLag 5000k are all 6 core 12 thread Haswell-E parts

it was a intel 4770k i just checked.