Max 66mm CPU Cooler on 9900K

[AMD Lover]

So I just got my new case in the mail, Merry Christmas to me!! Its a SFF style and max CPU cooler is 66mm. I found a Noctua and Cooler Master that look decent but I don't know how they'll handle the heat? I do have the possibility to use up to dual 120mm AIO however it will extend the height of the case and I don't want to do that. 

 

Opinions? Choose different CPU? Go water cooling?

 

https://www.newegg.com/products/35-608-071

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=35-103-177

 

[LukeSavenije]

Only a custom loop is what I recommend here. Both of those options will have a hard time trying to cool that chip

[AMD Lover]

6 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

Only a custom loop is what I recommend here. Both of those options will have a hard time trying to cool that chip

Case doesn't have enough room for custom loop. Either low profile air cooler or AIO

[LukeSavenije]

2 minutes ago, AMD Lover said:

Case doesn't have enough room for custom loop. Either low profile air cooler or AIO

Well, those are going to have a hard time. I would step back a little on your cpu choise imo.

[Jurrunio]

Noctua - NH-L9x65 is as good as it gets in terms of height. Also undervolting is a must and you can forget overclocking

[AMD Lover]

21 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

Well, those are going to have a hard time. I would step back a little on your cpu choise imo.

 

19 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Noctua - NH-L9x65 is as good as it gets in terms of height. Also undervolting is a must and you can forget overclocking

 

If I went to a 9600K or 9700K would temps be more tolerable?

[Jurrunio]

Just now, AMD Lover said:

 

 

If I went to a 9600K or 9700K would temps be more tolerable?

you will get less performance for the same temperature

[WoodenMarker]

On 12/1/2018 at 5:16 PM, Jurrunio said:

you will get less performance for the same temperature

The 9700k is easier to cool but will still be difficult with air cooling in the Ghost S1. https://www.anandtech.com/show/13400/intel-9th-gen-core-i9-9900k-i7-9700k-i5-9600k-review/21

It might be okay with an undervolt and the NH-L12. https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NH-L12-Low-profile-Quiet-Cooler/dp/B007C861WO

The NH-L12 with the single lower fan barely keeps a 9900k with an 1.1v undervolt at 92c.  

@AMD Lover For future reference, you should mention what case you're using. 

[AMD Lover]

3 hours ago, WoodenMarker said:

The 9700k is easier to cool but will still be difficult with air cooling in the Ghost S1. https://www.anandtech.com/show/13400/intel-9th-gen-core-i9-9900k-i7-9700k-i5-9600k-review/21

It might be okay with an undervolt and the NH-L12. https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NH-L12-Low-profile-Quiet-Cooler/dp/B007C861WO

The NH-L12 with the single lower fan barely keeps a 9900k with an 1.1v undervolt at 92c.  

@AMD Lover For future reference, you should mention what case you're using. 

Yeah, in normal use however with games and general use it shouldn't run as hot as synthetics however is something I have been considering and also I've been looking at that video a lot and think maybe you could get a 15mm thick 120mm fan on the bottom side and still clear the RAM.

[WoodenMarker]

39 minutes ago, AMD Lover said:

Yeah, in normal use however with games and general use it shouldn't run as hot as synthetics however is something I have been considering and also I've been looking at that video a lot and think maybe you could get a 15mm thick 120mm fan on the bottom side and still clear the RAM.

The synthetic test used isn't stressing the graphics card and the extra heat from that during gaming might make cooling similar if not worse. A 120mm fan like the NF-A12x25 would help but the difference wouldn't be massive. I don't think it's likely to get anything more than an undervolt similar to the video. If you'd rather have higher clock speeds, the 9700k probably makes more sense.

[AMD Lover]

2 hours ago, WoodenMarker said:

The synthetic test used isn't stressing the graphics card and the extra heat from that during gaming might make cooling similar if not worse. A 120mm fan like the NF-A12x25 would help but the difference wouldn't be massive. I don't think it's likely to get anything more than an undervolt similar to the video. If you'd rather have higher clock speeds, the 9700k probably makes more sense.

I might just break down and buy a couple too hats and watercool it. Trying to decide if it's worth the extra money and making the case bigger to have the hardware or just to step down the hardware.

[Stefan Payne]

On 12/2/2018 at 1:41 AM, LukeSavenije said:

Only a custom loop is what I recommend here. Both of those options will have a hard time trying to cool that chip

I'd agree with that...

On 12/2/2018 at 1:48 AM, AMD Lover said:

Case doesn't have enough room for custom loop. Either low profile air cooler or AIO

Problem is that the CPU consumes like 200W when really running...

So there's no way to get that...

On 12/2/2018 at 2:14 AM, AMD Lover said:

If I went to a 9600K or 9700K would temps be more tolerable?

No, you should go Ryzen if you want such a small PC and save on the CPU right now to save for the upcoming 3000 series and replace it when the availability is good...

Right now the best deal is the 2600x for less than 200€.

With that, a Noctua NH-L12 might be the best you can get, if you can get it inside the case. Its a bit more than 66mm but not much so it might fit but its risky...

[kevinisbeast707]

I think all of the obvious answers have been mentioned here already but I built myself a system with a ryzen 5 1600 and gtx 1070 ti in a Silverstone rvz-03 which is sff and can technically take a 240mm radiator. However what I discovered is that while you can fit the radiator, you cannot fit fans if you have a dual slot gpu. I decided to custom liquid cool the whole thing and now I have it to where both the cpu and gpu are liquid cooled using a 25mm thick rad with a 15mm fan directly under the gpu block and then a 25mm thick fan under where the 8 pin is and that does admirably in cooling overall. Just because an aio would mandate a thicker case doesn't mean custom cooling cant actually take up less space. Just food for thought.

[Stefan Payne]

21 hours ago, kevinisbeast707 said:

Silverstone rvz-03 which is sff

Yeah but rather big for an SFF build.
inside its the same as the RVZ-01-E with ATX PSU Support.

I "only" own the RVZ-01 with SFX PSU but 3,5" HDD above the PSU.

 

But they're essentially the same. The only major difference between your case and my is that the plastic is different, you have a bit blue light and a different PSU shroud. And that's about it...

 

As for max. CPU Heatsink height:
Actually the NH-L12 can be mounted with a dual fan setup: one 120x14mm on the bottom and another 120x14mm fan (for example one of the two silver stone ones that came with the case) can be mounted on top - if you get another Fan Clamp...

But either way, its not really enough for this CPU, if you really want to use it...