Looking for suggestions before purchasing

[MrGP]

Hey everyone, I'm looking for some advice on my first PC build, before I go ahead with purchasing all my components.

 

The aim of this build is to be a great video editing and animation machine. I hope to do gaming with it, but nothing AAA.

 

Notes:

I'm aware there is plenty of features on my motherboard that I won't be using (M.2, 4x PCIe), I would gladly take any suggestions on cheaper alternatives. 

The main dilemma I'm faced with at the moment is whether or not to purchase a RTX 2070 instead of a GTX 1080. Hopefully you guys can help!

 

CPU: AMD - Threadripper 1950X 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor

CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.69 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler

Motherboard: Asus - PRIME X399-A EATX TR4 Motherboard

Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory

SSD: Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

HDD: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card

Case: be quiet! - Dark Base 900 (Black/Orange) ATX Full Tower Case

PSU: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

[bellabichon]

If you're a professional animator, are you planning to render anything in RTX? If so, and RTX card might actually not be a bad idea. 

[MrGP]

1 minute ago, bellabichon said:

If you're a professional animator, are you planning to render anything in RTX? If so, and RTX card might actually not be a bad idea. 

Nothing in a professional setting currently. It will be mainly used for doing motion graphics and basic 3D modeling. On top of that, video editing in the Adobe Suite.

[DocSwag]

What specific applications? Depending on what you're using TR may not be the best choice (Adobe, for example, doesn't make great use of the extra cores and may actually prefer Intel CPUs due to iGPU acceleration)

[MrGP]

14 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

What specific applications? Depending on what you're using TR may not be the best choice (Adobe, for example, doesn't make great use of the extra cores and may actually prefer Intel CPUs due to iGPU acceleration)

Specific applications include Premiere Pro, After Effects, Photoshop, Illustrator and Audacity. I have dabbled in Blender but it's not a priority for this build.

 

The reason I went for TR initially was due to this article where it benchmarks Premiere Pro with both Intel and AMD CPUs.

https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Adobe-Premiere-Pro-CC-143/Hardware-Recommendations

 

I realized the benchmark results show that an Intel CPU is vastly superior in some cases, however it's out of my price range unless I were to bring the cost of another component down. I have been looking into a cheaper case, as I realize the one I've chosen is $180 CAD. 

 

What CPU is comparable to that of the AMD 1950x in the Intel line-up at roughly the same price range?

[DocSwag]

19 minutes ago, MrGP said:

Specific applications include Premiere Pro, After Effects, Photoshop, Illustrator and Audacity. I have dabbled in Blender but it's not a priority for this build.

 

The reason I went for TR initially was due to this article where it benchmarks Premiere Pro against similarly priced Intel CPU.

https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Adobe-Premiere-Pro-CC-143/Hardware-Recommendations

 

I realized the benchmark results show that an Intel CPU is vastly superior in some cases, however it's out of my price range unless I were to bring the cost of another component down. I have been looking into a cheaper case, as I realize the one I've chosen is $180 CAD. 

 

What CPU is comparable to that of the AMD 1950x in the Intel line-up at roughly the same price range?

If you enable iGPU acceleration with something like an 8700k or 9700k it performs similarily to the 1950x in many cases while being a lot cheaper.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3310-adobe-premiere-benchmarks-rendering-8700k-gpu-vs-ryzen

 

EDIT: Sorry accidentally hit submit a little too early, I wanted to add that there is a slight loss in quality but it's a very small difference. You can take a look for yourself here

 

Also for comparison in other applications, here's 8700k vs 2950x

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-threadripper-2950x-2990wx-cpu,5797-7.html

 

As you can see, it does depend somewhat... Illustrator and Photoshop tend to do a bit better on Intel CPUs, whereas after affects does better on TR.

[MrGP]

6 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

If you enable iGPU acceleration with something like an 8700k or 9700k it performs similarily to the 1950x in many cases while being a lot cheaper.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3310-adobe-premiere-benchmarks-rendering-8700k-gpu-vs-ryzen

I do see that, thank you for showing me this. Are you aware if Intel CPUs fare better on other Adobe programs such as After effects, Photoshop or Illustrator? 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't processor threads responsible for multi-tasking on computers? In my case, I tend to have numerous Adobe programs open at the same time, are you aware if an 8700k will have a significant effect on my capabilities to do this, due to the 12 thread count. (8 on 9700k) Seeing as the 1950x is has a 32 thread count, I would imagine it would be able to handle these tasks better. (Excuse my lack of knowledge)

 

I feel I should also note, I'm not editing 4k or RED footage. For the time being, I am doing 1080p60. I want the ability to do 4k but not right away.

[DocSwag]

10 minutes ago, MrGP said:

I do see that, thank you for showing me this. Are you aware if Intel CPUs fare better on other Adobe programs such as After effects, Photoshop or Illustrator? 

 

See my edit  I accidentally hit submit too early so I didn't include the other stuff in my original post.

11 minutes ago, MrGP said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't processor threads responsible for multi-tasking on computers? In my case, I tend to have numerous Adobe programs open at the same time, are you aware if an 8700k will have a significant effect on my capabilities to do this, due to the 12 thread count. (8 on 9700k) Seeing as the 1950x is has a 32 thread count, I would imagine it would be able to handle these tasks better. (Excuse my lack of knowledge)

No you're totally right. If you tend to have a lot of things running at the same time all doing work a 1950x could be a better option. Rendering, say, in premiere would be less likely to have a large performance impact if you're also using illustrator at the same time.

[benjl]

1 hour ago, MrGP said:

Hey everyone, I'm looking for some advice on my first PC build, before I go ahead with purchasing all my components.

 

The aim of this build is to be a great video editing and animation machine. I hope to do gaming with it, but nothing AAA.

 

Notes:

I'm aware there is plenty of features on my motherboard that I won't be using (M.2, 4x PCIe), I would gladly take any suggestions on cheaper alternatives. 

The main dilemma I'm faced with at the moment is whether or not to purchase a RTX 2070 instead of a GTX 1080. Hopefully you guys can help!

 

CPU: AMD - Threadripper 1950X 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor

CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.69 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler

Motherboard: Asus - PRIME X399-A EATX TR4 Motherboard

Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory

SSD: Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

HDD: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card

Case: be quiet! - Dark Base 900 (Black/Orange) ATX Full Tower Case

PSU: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

you might want to get a larger hard drive and a 16/32 optane module. It seems like as an animator you would be storing a lot of files. The optane will also speed up your HDD a lot. Also, your 650w PSU won't be enough if you are pushing your CPU and GPU to the limit. If not, you may want to consider downgrading your CPU or GPU.

[MrGP]

2 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

See my edit  I accidentally hit submit too early so I didn't include the other stuff in my original post.

No you're totally right. If you tend to have a lot of things running at the same time all doing work a 1950x could be a better option. Rendering, say, in premiere would be less likely to have a large performance impact if you're also using illustrator at the same time.

Saw the edit after I posted. 

Thank you very much for the clarifications and help with this topic. As I mentioned it's my first computer build and I'm really enjoying learning about all these technologies.

6 minutes ago, benjl said:

you might want to get a larger hard drive and a 16/32 optane module. It seems like as an animator you would be storing a lot of files. The optane will also speed up your HDD a lot. Also, your 650w PSU won't be enough if you are pushing your CPU and GPU to the limit. If not, you may want to consider downgrading your CPU or GPU.

A larger hard drive is a good suggestion and so is the optane module. I've pondered going with Intel; if that is what I chose to do, I will certainly look into getting Optane. As it stands right now, the ASUS PRIME X399-A is what I've chosen, and it's not compatible with such a component. Although the concept is interesting which will make me look into it as an upgrade down the road. 

 

For the PSU, I will certainly upgrade it to the 750W version, same brand.

[benjl]

4 minutes ago, MrGP said:

Saw the edit after I posted. 

Thank you very much for the clarifications and help with this topic. As I mentioned it's my first computer build and I'm really enjoying learning about all these technologies.

A larger hard drive is a good suggestion and so is the optane module. I've pondered going with Intel; if that is what I chose to do, I will certainly look into getting Optane. As it stands right now, the ASUS PRIME X399-A is what I've chosen, and it's not compatible with such a component. Although the concept is interesting which will make me look into it as an upgrade down the road. 

 

For the PSU, I will certainly upgrade it to the 750W version, same brand.

I totally forgot about the ryzen part. Optane won't work.