UPS? AVR? Surge Protectors power bricks? Do I need these?

[drkknghtavngr]

The PSU I bought broke after a matter of weeks! Albeit a second hand, I think Seasonic PSUs are relatively tough right? Do you think its my lack of UPS? AVR? Surge Protectors is the reason? Do I need these???

[Jurrunio]

Where do you live? Is the power net stable?

[ImperialSteele]

Did you have a power outage right before it broke/noticed dirty power? If not it wasn't something any of those solutions would help you with. Probably just a dud unit, rare but does happen. Try and RMA and get a new one, Seasonic has good customer support. Are you sure it's broken though? 

[knightslugger]

a UPS with AVR is what every computer SHOULD have.

[ImperialSteele]

That said, I would always recommend a UPS, great investment for unexpected power outages, giving you more time to safely turn off your system

[drkknghtavngr]

16 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Where do you live? Is the power net stable?

I live in the Philippines and we rarely get power outtage in my house although I think sometimes our lights will slightly dim for a spit second... 

[drkknghtavngr]

16 hours ago, ImperialSteele said:

Did you have a power outage right before it broke/noticed dirty power? If not it wasn't something any of those solutions would help you with. Probably just a dud unit, rare but does happen. Try and RMA and get a new one, Seasonic has good customer support. Are you sure it's broken though? 

I didnt have a power outtage that time. Its not completely broke but the power button wont work and you have to flick the switch multiple times on the PSU to get it to turn on plus everytime I try to play a game or mine, it just reboots automatically, Im using my old generic psu for now before my ordered PSU comes... This time its brand new and still Seasonic so I wonder if I still need UPS/AVR/SurgeProctector to avoid what happen last time...

[drkknghtavngr]

BTW guys, my monitor also blacks out for a second when I turn on my Fan which are both connected to a single power brick along with my pc, it doesnt happen everytime but happens often, is that normal?

[ImperialSteele]

8 minutes ago, drkknghtavngr said:

BTW guys, my monitor also blacks out for a second when I turn on my Fan which are both connected to a single power brick along with my pc, it doesnt happen everytime but happens often, is that normal?

Uhh, no. Try using your Seasonic PSU when the PC is being plugged straight into the wall, with nothing else.

[Jurrunio]

12 minutes ago, drkknghtavngr said:

I didnt have a power outtage that time. Its not completely broke but the power button wont work and you have to flick the switch multiple times on the PSU to get it to turn on plus everytime I try to play a game or mine, it just reboots automatically, Im using my old generic psu for now before my ordered PSU comes... This time its brand new and still Seasonic so I wonder if I still need UPS/AVR/SurgeProctector to avoid what happen last time...

If it has happened more than once then get one.

9 minutes ago, drkknghtavngr said:

BTW guys, my monitor also blacks out for a second when I turn on my Fan which are both connected to a single power brick along with my pc, it doesnt happen everytime but happens often, is that normal?

No, this shouldnt happen. Probably a badly wired power board. A PC can use a lot of power, so you shouldnt let it share the same socket with other stuff.

[drkknghtavngr]

You mean my current seasonic? Its totally broken. It still happening even on my generic psu, tho it didnt happen on my previos monitor tho! Maybe its just my monitor?(its second hand too :P)

[knightslugger]

voltage dips are indicative of overloading of the circuit. fans almost always draw more amperage during ramp-up than they do during sustained use. This is why the 80% rule for electrical load exists.

[drkknghtavngr]

16 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

If it has happened more than once then get one.

No, this shouldnt happen. Probably a badly wired power board. A PC can use a lot of power, so you shouldnt let it share the same socket with other stuff.

Unfortunately the wall socket is being blocked by my bed so I need to extend the socket to a free area  ...

[ImperialSteele]

Just now, drkknghtavngr said:

You mean my current seasonic? Its totally broken. It still happening even on my generic psu, tho it didnt happen on my previos monitor tho! Maybe its just my monitor?(its second hand too :P)

Ya, a likely cause of that is everything being in the same outlet. Plugging your PC directly into the wall by itself should sort it.

[Jurrunio]

Just now, drkknghtavngr said:

Unfortunately the wall socket is being blocked by my bed...

Then you cant use the fan.... At least make the fan share power source from other low power draw stuff like table lamps and phone chargers.

[drkknghtavngr]

16 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Then you cant use the fan.... At least make the fan share power source from other low power draw stuff like table lamps and phone chargers.

how about my monitor  

[Jurrunio]

Just now, drkknghtavngr said:

how about my monitor  

This is fine. a typical 1080p monitor use about 10% of what a PC will pull.

[drkknghtavngr]

16 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Then you cant use the fan.... At least make the fan share power source from other low power draw stuff like table lamps and phone chargers.

So basically my room is small af, it only has one wall outlet, I have two different extensions plugged into that same wall outlet, the other extension is just used for low powered stuff. I moved the fan to the other extension ( where the Pc isnt at) but it still blacks out my monitor for a bit

[knightslugger]

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

This is fine. a typical 1080p monitor use about 10% of what a PC will pull.

but if it's plugged into the same circuit as the rest of the room, it wont matter. it's still drawing power from the same breaker.

[drkknghtavngr]

16 hours ago, drkknghtavngr said:

So basically my room is small af, it only has one wall outlet, I have two different extensions plugged into that same wall outlet, the other extension is just used for low powered stuff. I moved the fan to the other extension ( where the Pc isnt at) but it still blacks out my monitor for a bit

16 hours ago, knightslugger said:

but if it's plugged into the same circuit as the rest of the room, it wont matter. it's still drawing power from the same breaker.

 

*Insert Denzel Washington "My Nigga" meme here*

[knightslugger]

1 minute ago, drkknghtavngr said:

So basically my room is small af, it only has one wall outlet, I have two different extensions plugged into that same wall outlet, the other extension is just used for low powered stuff. I moved the fan to the other extension ( where the Pc isnt at) but it still blacks out my monitor for a bit

the outlet has a rating, and it should be the same rating as the breaker in the power distribution panel. adding power strips and extensions isn't going to improve matters either. You don't get more amperage by adding outlets.

[drkknghtavngr]

16 hours ago, knightslugger said:

the outlet has a rating, and it should be the same rating as the breaker in the power distribution panel. adding power strips and extensions isn't going to improve matters either. You don't get more amperage by adding outlets.

does this also mean that if an electrician created another wall outlet to my room, it still connected to the same breaker??????

[Jurrunio]

7 minutes ago, drkknghtavngr said:

So basically my room is small af, it only has one wall outlet, I have two different extensions plugged into that same wall outlet, the other extension is just used for low powered stuff. I moved the fan to the other extension ( where the Pc isnt at) but it still blacks out my monitor for a bit

Then that's too bad. You will need a power board connected to the next room and pull all the way to yours.

[drkknghtavngr]

Hypothetically, lets say I got stubborn so I didnt buy a UPS and my new PSU break, will seasonic RMA it????

[knightslugger]

Just now, drkknghtavngr said:

does this also mean that if an electrician created another wall outlet to my room, it still connected to the same breaker??????

if he does what is called a "home run", then no. It will be on it's own separate circuit.