Creating a home network?

[mrmods]

I cant decide whether i should build a new server for my home or to just buy one off the internet like this one:          http://www.ebuyer.com/758894-hpe-proliant-ml10-gen9-pentium-g4400-v5-2-3-4ghz-4gb-tower-server-837826-421-837826-421 

I want it to be as cheap as possible and run Windows Server 2012 and Sophos UTM Home Edition, i will run Sophos UTM Home Edition in a virtual machine. I want to use it to remote access other windows computers, make a home VPN and be a NAS for my house hold and family and friends with with 2 2tb hard drives, one to store everyones backups and the other set to raid 1 to keep a clone of the hard drive. Anyone got any idea on the build i should make but i need it to be as cheap as possible as i am not the richest guy? Cheap as possible would be nice. thanks

[SaintPosum]

My only thought on this matter is that 4TB isn't much space on a NAS.  An off the shelf system probably wouldn't be a bad purchase for your use case

[RAM555789]

I would get one from online, due to registered RAM being so much more expensive to buy.

[mrmods]

1 minute ago, SaintPosum said:

My only thought on this matter is that 4TB isn't much space on a NAS.  An off the shelf system probably wouldn't be a bad purchase for your use case

all those components are nice but wayyyyy out of my price range

[SaintPosum]

3 minutes ago, RAM555789 said:

I would get one from online, due to registered RAM being so much more expensive to buy.

Let the record state that thats what i meant as well as opposed to hand building the system

[mrmods]

1 minute ago, RAM555789 said:

I would get one from online, due to registered RAM being so much more expensive to buy.

any recommendations?

[RAM555789]

What you found will probably be best. Just think about what your storing on the NAS so you don't use up all the memory on the drive, but theres 4 bays so if you need to stick 2 more 2TBs in the future you could.

[mrmods]

1 minute ago, RAM555789 said:

What you found will probably be best. Just think about what your storing on the NAS so you don't use up all the memory on the drive, but theres 4 bays so if you need to stick 2 more 2TBs in the future you could.

yeah that sounds good. do you think it will make much difference if i use a normal hard drive rather than a NAS drive for the storage of the back ups?

[RAM555789]

Just now, mrmods said:

yeah that sounds good. do you think it will make much difference if i use a normal hard drive rather than a NAS drive for the storage of the back ups?

Probably just will take a bit longer, I'm not 100% familiar with NAS drives.

[newgeneral10]

NAS drives just typically last longer because they are made to be on 24/7.  You could very easily get a regular desktop hard drive that is faster than a NAS drive.

[mrmods]

1 minute ago, newgeneral10 said:

NAS drives just typically last longer because they are made to be on 24/7.  You could very easily get a regular desktop hard drive that is faster than a NAS drive.

how long do you think a good seagate standard 2tb will last me if its on 24/7?

[SaintPosum]

5 minutes ago, mrmods said:

how long do you think a good seagate standard 2tb will last me if its on 24/7?

At least a Year, average 5ish?

[mrmods]

Just now, SaintPosum said:

At least a Year, average 5ish?

that sounds good, ill just replace it after the 5 years. 

[SaintPosum]

However If i could recommend a drive the WD blues are pretty great although I have used Seagate in the past with pretty good results as well

[mrmods]

7 minutes ago, SaintPosum said:

However If i could recommend a drive the WD blues are pretty great although I have used Seagate in the past with pretty good results as well

yeah theyre pretty good as ive seen in linus's video he done on the different types

[SaintPosum]

Best of luck on your system.  Hope it works well.

[mrmods]

Just now, SaintPosum said:

Best of luck on your system.  Hope it works well.

thanks a lot

[seagate_surfer]

2 hours ago, mrmods said:

how long do you think a good seagate standard 2tb will last me if its on 24/7?

Hi mrmods,

 

just a couple of remarks from us:

generally, it is recommended to pick drives as of usage behavior since they are all built differently for each specific purpose (e.g. continuous writing for surveillance HDDs). The following table shows a rough guideline with some data:

 

 

You can pick your hard drive based on those data to fit your needs!

If you have any further questions, let us know...

 

[mrmods]

7 minutes ago, seagate_surfer said:

Hi mrmods,

 

just a couple of remarks from us:

generally, it is recommended to pick drives as of usage behavior since they are all built differently for each specific purpose (e.g. continuous writing for surveillance HDDs). The following table shows a rough guideline with some data:

 

 

You can pick your hard drive based on those data to fit your needs!

If you have any further questions, let us know...

 

I think the surveillance HDD would best suit me. Got immature kids touching everything and it may have to be vibration tolerant.

[newgeneral10]

18 hours ago, mrmods said:

I think the surveillance HDD would best suit me. Got immature kids touching everything and it may have to be vibration tolerant.

I think by vibration tolerant they mean the vibrations that are caused by the hard drives.  I don't think any hard drive is little kid tolerant...

[seagate_surfer]

21 minutes ago, newgeneral10 said:

I think by vibration tolerant they mean the vibrations that are caused by the hard drives.  I don't think any hard drive is little kid tolerant...

Thank you newgeneral10 for clarifying!

Especially in larger data centers there are a lot of moving parts that people do not take into account when planning those environments and the corresponding "correct" hard drives. Multiple drives and fans are spinning there - causing a lot of additive vibrations. 

 

What we wanted to say to support mrmods in regards to picking his drive: 

Although we recommend the right drive for each specific setting as mentioned above, you should always look at usage behavior!

If you are on a budget and do not run a heavily accessed NAS on a 24/7 basis, you might just be fine with a Desktop HDD. 

[mrmods]

4 hours ago, seagate_surfer said:

Thank you newgeneral10 for clarifying!

Especially in larger data centers there are a lot of moving parts that people do not take into account when planning those environments and the corresponding "correct" hard drives. Multiple drives and fans are spinning there - causing a lot of additive vibrations. 

 

What we wanted to say to support mrmods in regards to picking his drive: 

Although we recommend the right drive for each specific setting as mentioned above, you should always look at usage behavior!

If you are on a budget and do not run a heavily accessed NAS on a 24/7 basis, you might just be fine with a Desktop HDD. 

It will be like an evey so often back up kind of thing so i think the desktop one will be fine then thanks

[mrmods]

5 hours ago, newgeneral10 said:

I think by vibration tolerant they mean the vibrations that are caused by the hard drives.  I don't think any hard drive is little kid tolerant...

oh right thanks for the clarification, i sound foolish nowlol