Founders Edition vs. "Custom" Card

[TomSerious]

Hey all, 

 

I want to get the new GTX 1080 Ti and watercool it.

Either the Founders Edition or the Strix one.

 

My question now is, do I only pay extra for the cooler, * so do I get the same

performance if I apply a better cooler myself?

 

Thanks in advance!

TomSerious

 

* b4 edit:

or is it possible to overclock the Strix card further than the Founders Edition?

Edited March 28, 2017 by TomSerious
Question

[Energycore]

2 minutes ago, TomSerious said:

is it possible

to overclock the Strix card further than the Founders Edition?

In one word, no

 

In fact you won't be able to OC further with watercooling either, you'll only get a quieter card. Keep that in mind.

[TomSerious]

4 minutes ago, Energycore said:

In fact you won't be able to OC further with watercooling either, you'll only get a quieter card. Keep that in mind.

Sorry to oppose, but if the temperature is lower you can OC a chip further.

If I forget to adjust my fans (after I turned them down to run while I sleep) my CPU OC fails (normal 50°C max, low fans 70-80°C)!

 

But anyway, my question was not asked correctly (I'll edit):

If I can cool down the Founders Edition Card enough, will it be able to achieve the same performance / OC as the Strix one?

[Energycore]

Just now, TomSerious said:

Sorry to oppose, but if the temperature is lower you can OC a chip further.

If I forget to adjust my fans (after I turned them down to run while I sleep) my CPU OC fails (normal 50°C max, low fans 70-80°C)!

 

But anyway, my question was not asked correctly (I'll edit):

If I can cool down the Founders Edition Card enough, will it be able to achieve the same performance / OC as the Strix one?

What I'm trying to say is that as long as your temperatures are below 83C, all 1080 Tis will run into a brick wall at around 2100MHz. You won't OC further with better temperatures, unfortunately. Not without going below zero with LN2.

 

And yes the founders will hit the same overclocks, it depends on the chip you got not on the card around it.

[TomSerious]

1 minute ago, Energycore said:

What I'm trying to say is that as long as your temperatures are below 83C, all 1080 Tis will run into a brick wall at around 2100MHz. You won't OC further with better temperatures, unfortunately. Not without going below zero with LN2.

 

And yes the founders will hit the same overclocks, it depends on the chip you got not on the card around it.

Then sorry for the misunderstanding and thank you!

[Froody129]

11 minutes ago, Energycore said:

What I'm trying to say is that as long as your temperatures are below 83C, all 1080 Tis will run into a brick wall at around 2100MHz. You won't OC further with better temperatures, unfortunately. Not without going below zero with LN2.

 

And yes the founders will hit the same overclocks, it depends on the chip you got not on the card around it.

AFAIK the lower the temps the higher it will Boost. The thing with Pascal though is that it doesn't have unlocked voltage, so you can't go further after a point, no matter the temps

[Energycore]

Just now, Froody129 said:

AFAIK the lower the temps the higher it will Boost. He hung with Oascal though is that it doesn't have unlocked voltage, so you can't go further after a point, no matter the temps

I've seen people pump voltage into Pascal chips and it won't change the max overclocks, unfortunately

[Froody129]

8 minutes ago, Energycore said:

I've seen people pump voltage into Pascal chips and it won't change the max overclocks, unfortunately

You can't tell the card what voltage to use though, only move the percentage slider. So you can't pump in 1,5 volt like on a CPU

[desertcomputer]

10 minutes ago, Energycore said:

I've seen people pump voltage into Pascal chips and it won't change the max overclocks, unfortunately

Yep.

 

I would suggest just grab the cheapest an will fit your case. It much better buy reference for watercooling because block for it will be much easier to find and more options.  If not going  to watercool, buy other card would help with temps. 

[Energycore]

Just now, Froody129 said:

You can't tell the card what voltage to use though, only move the percentage slider. So you can't pump in 1,5 volt like on a CPU

Even then, I've heard of extreme overclockers soldering shit into pascal cards to increase voltage and it doesn't do much. Here's an idea of how hard it is to extreme-OC a Pascal card.

 

[Froody129]

1 minute ago, Energycore said:

Even then, I've heard of extreme overclockers soldering shit into pascal cards to increase voltage and it doesn't do much. Here's an idea of how hard it is to extreme-OC a Pascal card.

 

Yeah

 

For OP: Pascal is basically just limited by the lottery. You don't even need to water cool since most coolers will be plenty

[Technomancer__]

founders = shit

i suggest getting the zotac amp extreme one

amp exteme coolers are the best and the biggest so check if it fits your system first

[Owlman]

16 minutes ago, Ethocreeper said:

founders = shit

i suggest getting the zotac amp extreme one

amp exteme coolers are the best and the biggest so check if it fits your system first

the 1080 ti amp extreme also has  2 + 16 power phases

[TomSerious]

18 minutes ago, Ethocreeper said:

amp exteme coolers are the best and the biggest so check if it fits your system first

I got a really big case so should be no problem, but I will throw away the cooler anyway ^^

 

 

Just ordered the Asus Founders Edition btw !