i5 6600k or i7 6700k with a gtx 1080 for bf1.

[ElliotGustafsson]

Hi. I've been thinkin of buying a new pc to play bf1 on. My question is if the extra cost of the i7 worth it? I also would like this upgrade to last me a few years. And will an i5 bottleneck the gtx 1080 in games?

[Lays]

i7. 

 

There's posts all over the place about people with new i5's having issues in BF1.

[BloodyWaters]

Pay the extra it'll help you in the long run. 

[Boxing Kitten]

Yeah especially when Intel has  shown that they will manipulate the game devs to favor i7

[Lays]

1 minute ago, Giovanni7 said:

Yeah especially when Intel has  shown that they will manipulate the game devs to favor i7

How do you know that ONE game dev didn't contact intel about the partnership?

 

As almost all of us know, when it comes to game devs, nothing is out of their eyes whether it be stupid amounts of DLC, not finishing their games, overhyping releases of terribly optimized games, the list goes on and on.

[Boxing Kitten]

5 minutes ago, Lays said:

How do you know that ONE game dev didn't contact intel about the partnership?

 

As almost all of us know, when it comes to game devs, nothing is out of their eyes whether it be stupid amounts of DLC, not finishing their games, overhyping releases of terribly optimized games, the list goes on and on.

Statistically the game dev makes more money when thier user base is wider so the only motive for restriction logically has to be money coming from an external source similar to how console company keep exclusivity, it comes at a pretty penny the game developer situation and intel is all the same. Its jacked up on a moral/principle level but a valid crappy business move nonetheless. and it looks like intel was calling the shots there.

[Megah3rtz]

i7 easily. i5 will bottleneck 1080.

[MageTank]

I'll just post my chunk of synthetic HT benchmarks, since it's pseudo-related to the topic:

On 12/11/2016 at 0:27 AM, MageTank said:

The gauntlet is complete! I'll let you guys extrapolate the results, as I am too tired to do so myself. I'll go over whatever you guys conclude in the morning. Without further ado, the results:

 

Stock i7 6700k HT Off 2133mhz Ram: http://imgur.com/a/YeY9f  http://valid.x86.fr/3a9v8e

Stock i7 6700k HT Off 3200mhz Ram: http://imgur.com/a/O52eP   http://valid.x86.fr/fh77ve

Stock i7 6700k HT On 2133mhz Ram: http://imgur.com/a/jSnIm  http://valid.x86.fr/li4nvu

Stock i7 6700k HT On 3200mhz Ram: http://imgur.com/a/5jIuH  http://valid.x86.fr/kb5895

 

If there is any additional benchmarks you guys need me to do, let me know. I can't offer much experience when it comes to CPU's themselves, but anything memory related seems to come easy to me, so feel free to exploit that if applicable. 

 

Ram made no difference in the benchmarks. We see a 49.5% boost with HT on vs off in Blender, 31% boost in Cinebench, 5% boost in Aida64 Hash, 17% in both FP32/64 Ray Trace, and a 9% boost in CPU-Z's multicore score. The mean, or average of all 6 tests, comes to 21.416% performance improvement from having HT on. HT on average, costs anywhere from 30-45% more depending on sales. That being said, these tests are not the be all, end all for comparing an i5 against an i7. Other factors come into play that were not tested, such as vast improvements in minimum framerates and the ability to multi-task harder while gaming, with less dips. 

 

If you can afford an i7, i'd say go for it. If not, an overclocked i5 will suffice.

1 minute ago, Megah3rtz said:

i7 easily. i5 will bottleneck 1080.

I've yet to see a modern i5 bottleneck a 1080. Any sources for that claim?

[Megah3rtz]

3 minutes ago, MageTank said:

I've yet to see a modern i5 bottleneck a 1080. Any sources for that claim?

in bf1, which is what hes interested in.

[MageTank]

Just now, Megah3rtz said:

in bf1, which is what hes interested in.

Saying "in bf1" isn't a source. A source would be a video, or review article with data that I can read. 

[Megah3rtz]

3 minutes ago, MageTank said:

Saying "in bf1" isn't a source. A source would be a video, or review article with data that I can read. 

source; I'm mistaken. I was thinking about i5 6400 results. They're more or less the same like you said

 

 

[MageTank]

1 minute ago, Megah3rtz said:

source; I'm mistaken. I was thinking about i5 6400 results. They're more or less the same like you said

 

 

The minimum framerates of the i7 with HT on is exactly why I recommend i7's for gaming. Minimum framerates are without a doubt, the most important when it comes to gaming, and i7's have a clear advantage in that regard. As for bottlenecking, an overclocked i5 shouldn't impose a serious bottleneck on average framerates, but the i7 will always have that minimum frame advantage.

 

You can improve minimum framerates in situations with high CPU overhead by using overclocked memory, but the better solution when running a GPU that is more powerful than the CPU, is to simply shift the bottleneck from the CPU to the GPU. Give the CPU less frames to deal with, by increasing the resolution (DSR, VSR, OGSSAA), or throw copious amounts of AA at the GPU. Either one works. Not the most elegant solution, but if you are already dropping frames from a bottleneck, you might as well get some eye candy out of it. 

[thenastyjbenny]

No matter what, the extra $$$ you will spend on an i7 will pay off later in performance. Even if you OC your i5, it won't be able to keep up with what the i7 can put out, especially if you pair it with decent RAM.