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Is an APU worth it for a budget gaming rig with a dedicated GPU or should i spend less and get a non-APU (saving money) (ie an A8-7600 (APU) vs a 5350)

 

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Athlon X4 860K / 870K if you're going to use a dGPU

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Just now, Dan Castellaneta said:

What would you use the APU side of things for?

No idea since the dedicated GPU would be an R9 270X

 

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Just now, Morgan MLGman said:

Athlon X4 860K / 870K if you're going to use a dGPU

Ok

 

 

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1 minute ago, Morgan MLGman said:

Athlon X4 860K / 870K if you're going to use a dGPU

Ok Thanks

 

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1 minute ago, Morgan MLGman said:

Athlon X4 860K / 870K if you're going to use a dGPU

Unless there is a cheaper Intel one with beter proformance

 

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Just now, TubsAlwaysWIns said:

Unless there is a cheaper Intel one with beter proformance

Nope :)

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Just now, Morgan MLGman said:

Nope :)

What of i went with a Pentium G3258 Anniversary and OC'd it

 

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u can get an i3 and h97 board pretty cheep. might be worth looking at that so you have an upgrade path.

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Just now, TubsAlwaysWIns said:

What of i went with a Pentium G3258 Anniversary and OC'd it

Some games won't even run on dual-cores, so while in some games the Pentium will work better (in older ones, that are heavily singlethreaded), new AAA titles need a quad-core, that's why the Athlon is the budget king here

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Just now, thorbrantly101 said:

u can get an i3 and h97 board pretty cheep. might be worth looking at that so you have an upgrade path.

ok. Its for a friend, so im not sure if he would upgrade. We already have a build picked out but its $540, and I wanna go cheaper (so he can get a monitor)

 

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1 minute ago, Morgan MLGman said:

Some games won't even run on dual-cores, so while in some games the Pentium will work better (in older ones, that are heavily singlethreaded), new AAA titles need a quad-core, that's why the Athlon is the budget king here

OK. Do you think if I could get a quad core i3 it would be better?

Edit: They dont make a quad core i3 .

 

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2 minutes ago, TubsAlwaysWIns said:

OK. Do you think if I could get a quad core i3 it would be better?

yes that would be better. But the i3 is not a quad-core...it's a dual core with hyper threading so it has 4 threads...but it's a dual core...but it's better and faster than the 860K for example...across the board.

...unless it's an old i3...but for example haswell core i3-4160/4170 or skylake i3-6100 those CPU's are superior to pretty much any AMD CPU when it comes to gaming. (except maybe an overclocked FX-8350/8370 for example, but those cost more as well and you need an expensive board and better cooling so it will end up costing as much as a quad-core core i5.)

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Just now, i_build_nanosuits said:

yes that would be better.

They dont make quad-core i3's

 

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1 minute ago, TubsAlwaysWIns said:

OK. Do you think if I could get a quad core i3 it would be better?

I don't think there are quad core i3's. I think they just have dual cores with HT.

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Just now, TubsAlwaysWIns said:

They dont make quad-core i3's

i was editing my post...sorry, might want to re-read.

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Just now, i_build_nanosuits said:

i was editing my post...sorry, might want to re-read.

Ok. Ill edit my link in in a sec

 

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7 minutes ago, TubsAlwaysWIns said:

What of i went with a Pentium G3258 Anniversary and OC'd it

If you intend to drop an i5 or i7 from the Haswell family tree in there down the line, sure. If not, go for the quad-core 860K.

5 minutes ago, TubsAlwaysWIns said:

OK. Do you think if I could get a quad core i3 it would be better?

Yes. Much.

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Well a Haswell i3+H81 board is usually cheaper than a 860K and a A88X board.

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19 minutes ago, Bubblewhale said:

Well a Haswell i3+H81 board is usually cheaper than a 860K and a A88X board.

Not really. Even good A88X boards will only run $60, and a decent H81 board is about $45-50.

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2 minutes ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

Not really. Even good A88X boards will only run $60, and a decent H81 board is about $45-50.

Well once you spend the price to overclock...

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Just now, Bubblewhale said:

Well once you spend the price to overclock...

You can barely OC the fucking things for a worthwhile investment.

Yes, they OC that bad. They barely gain anything at around 4.4GHz or above.

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Just now, Bubblewhale said:

Well once you spend the price to overclock...

but even then the core i3 is a better choice, it's faster and more energy efficient and has an upgrade path to a core i5, a core i7 or a xeon down the road.

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Just now, Dan Castellaneta said:

You can barely OC the fucking things for a worthwhile investment.

Yes, they OC that bad. They barely gain anything at around 4.4GHz or above.

Even so once you overclock then their's no point, might as well get a i3.

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($44.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $154.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($72.89 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($24.75 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A88M PRO3+ Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($52.38 @ Newegg) 
Total: $150.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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