Zen2 vs zen+

[KappaGod23]

Okay so hello guys I need some help I have b450 tomahawk max gskill Trident z RGB 16gb 3200mhz evga 550 b3 gtx 1060 6gb which I will do an update on 2080ti or 3070 but for now my cpu (ryzen 7 1700) memory controller is faulty I will rma it and now I want to buy cpu.

My question is should I go with zen+ ( 2700x) and not with zen2 ( 3700x or maybe 3600x) because the 2700x is more time on the market and they have fix the problems for oc and ram compatibility right ? What do you think ?? 

[Haro]

The 3600x is better than the 2700x in most workloads unless it's purely multi threaded. 

If possible go for the 3600, and yes zen 2 has a  better imc than zen+ and zen 1. 

[eeeee1]

ryzen 5 3600 or higher is a very good choice

not sure about zen+ i didnt really care during that launch

but you could wait for zen 3

[KappaGod23]

2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

The 3600x is better than the 2700x in most workloads unless it's purely multi threaded. 

If possible go for the 3600, and yes zen 2 has a  better imc than zen+ and zen 1. 

Zen2 has better memory support ? So if I go I will not have problems right?

[Haro]

1 hour ago, KappaGod23 said:

So if I go I will not have problems right?

Depends, assuming everything is fine and assuming you're not going for stupid frequencies, it should do the job. 

[KappaGod23]

2 minutes ago, eeeee1 said:

ryzen 5 3600 or higher is a very good choice

not sure about zen+ i didnt really care during that launch

but you could wait for zen 3

Is b450 tomahawk support the zen3?? And btw if yes is worth to take something new ?? We don't know if zen3 will have problems 

 

Zen+ and zen2 already have some time on the market so the problems maybe are fixed and you are sure on what you buy 

[Deli]

1 minute ago, KappaGod23 said:

Zen2 has better memory support ? So if I go I will not have problems right?

Zen 2 is way easier on RAM.

[KappaGod23]

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

Depends, assuming everything is fine and assuming you're not going for stupid frequencies, it should do the job. 

I will go with 3200mhz (just open the xmp on my b450 tomahawk max) I don't know if I will go for oc but I don't want problems what do you think ? Zen2 or zen+ 

[Deli]

1 minute ago, KappaGod23 said:

Is b450 tomahawk support the zen3?? And btw if yes is worth to take something new ?? We don't know if zen3 will have problems 

 

Zen+ and zen2 already have some time on the market so the problems maybe are fixed and you are sure on what you buy 

MSI says its B450 boards will support Zen 3.

[eeeee1]

 

2 minutes ago, KappaGod23 said:

We don't know if zen3 will have problems

i mean you dont know if your new cpu is going to come in a drop kicked box

2 minutes ago, KappaGod23 said:

And btw if yes is worth to take something new ??

sometimes. the problem really isnt that the product is flawed, its that like 1 month later something better comes out

 

 

[Haro]

1 hour ago, KappaGod23 said:

I will go with 3200mhz

yea zen 2's imc should easily handle it. 

 

1 hour ago, eeeee1 said:

i dont think so.

Yes it will with a bios update to a beta bios. 

[KappaGod23]

Just now, eeeee1 said:

i dont think so.

but zen 3 wont be here for a while. save money for a x570 board. you have time

i mean you dont know if your new cpu is going to come in a drop kicked box

sometimes. the problem really isnt that the product is flawed, its that like 1 month later something better comes out

 

 

But for now I need to have a computer maybe on the future fix a pc with x570 now what do you think zen2 or zen+

[KappaGod23]

1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said:

yea zen 2's imc should easily handle it. 

 

Yes it will with a bios update to a beta bios. 

Okay so should I go with zen2 or wait and go with zen3 ?? 

[JoostinOnline]

5 minutes ago, KappaGod23 said:

Zen2 has better memory support ? So if I go I will not have problems right?

Better doesn't mean flawless. But you probably won't. The Zen 3 announcement is October 8 in case you want to wait.

[KappaGod23]

3 minutes ago, Deli said:

MSI says its B450 boards will support Zen 3.

So should I go with zen2 or wait and go with zen3 what do you think ? 

[Haro]

1 hour ago, KappaGod23 said:

or wait and go with zen3 ?? 

I mean if possible, wait for zen 3 and check what it has to offer, if not, go with zen 2. 

[eeeee1]

1 minute ago, KappaGod23 said:

But for now I need to have a computer maybe on the future fix a pc with x570 now what do you think zen2 or zen+

zen 2. i have already said that

[KappaGod23]

Just now, JoostinOnline said:

Better doesn't mean flawless. But you probably won't. The Zen 3 announcement is October 8 in case you want to wait.

It will be worth if I wait ?? 

[KappaGod23]

But zen2 is already tested about problems this is what I'm thinking 

[KappaGod23]

1 minute ago, eeeee1 said:

zen 2. i have already said that

About zen2 and zen3 what is your opinion? Should I wait 

[Kalinez]

Currently Using R5 3600 and i would definately recomend Zen2 since it has serious increase of IPC over zen+

Also if you can afford it another option is Ryzen 7 3800XT since it's still zen2 but unlike 3900X/XT it is reported that 3800XT reaches his advertised clock far better then the 3900 models which for gaming would be very well received despite that some people call it "waste of silicon"

 If you can't afford it - go for R5 3600 - makes my job done

[eeeee1]

Just now, KappaGod23 said:

About zen2 and zen3 what is your opinion? Should I wait 

zen 2 all you want. zen 3 hasnt even been announced yet (like in a official announcement presentation i think)

[Deli]

1 minute ago, KappaGod23 said:

So should I go with zen2 or wait and go with zen3 what do you think ? 

Get a R5 3600 now. If Zen 3 turns out to be way better. Sell the R6 3600 and get a Zen 3 chip.

[Kalinez]

Ah yeah. if you're not in a hurry - you can wait for zen 3 release so prices on zen2 will drop a bit

 

[KappaGod23]

3 minutes ago, Kalinez said:

Ah yeah. if you're not in a hurry - you can wait for zen 3 release so prices on zen2 will drop a bit

 

Of course that's right