Do I try and upgrade or do I just build a brand new pc

[Bleamy]

Budget (including currency): Around 500-600 US dollars

Country: United States

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming and if possible some streaming( Games I will most likely play are Assassins Creed Odyssey, rust, csgo, lol, overwatch, and some civ 6)  

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc):

 

I have a slightly modded dell optiplex 790. It has an intel I5 2400, Msi Radeon rx 560, 12gb of ram, CX 750m, and a WD Blue 1tb hard drive, also the motherboard is an Intel Q65 Express 

Right now I want to get a better pc but I dont know the exact path for upgrading, so I want to know if it might be better to build a pc from scratch or try and upgrade what I have now.

 

I dont know if this needs to be known but I am keeping the power supply and the hard drive

For peripherals needed it just needs to meet or be lower than the price range

 

[Dutch_Master]

Build from scratch. Mind, Dell has custom-build PSUs in their ranges, so I doubt you can take the Dell PSU to a new case w/o problems (wire harness too short, mounting holes might differ, etc).

 

You can use the Dell peripherals on your new system, at least until you have some money to replace those.

 

As for parts for your new system, aim for a mid-range AMD proc (1600AF or 3300X), higher range X570 main board (so you have an upgrade path in the future) and a 650W PSU. Re-use the GPU and HDD, get a fairly cheap case that meets your needs.

 

HTH!

[Kanna]

You could keep the PSU if it isn't super old the HDD you can keep to the rest meh, then maybe aim for an b550 board or b450 with a R5 3600 (you could keep gpu for a while) 

I also recommend waiting for new releases

[mopman94]

Honestly I would build a new one but in stages, you're running a nearly 10 hear old CPU at this point, if you want to keep playing new releases you're going to need a bit more power.

 

If I were you I would upgrade to a Ryzen 5 2600 or newer.

You'll need a new mobo and you'll need new RAM so get 16GB DDR4

You will also need a new PSU and you'll need a new case because the Dell case likely has bespoke mobo mounts and the airflow will be rubbish.

Get yourself an SSD, they are super cheap now. No need to splash out on an M.2.

 

 

I would keep your current GPU for now and keep saving for a while longer to get something like a 2060 or 2070 in a year so so time. Your 560 will do ok for now, won't be perfect but will work till you can get something better.

 

[Kanna]

1 minute ago, Dutch_Master said:

Build from scratch. Mind, Dell has custom-build PSUs in their ranges, so I doubt you can take the Dell PSU to a new case w/o problems (wire harness too short, mounting holes might differ, etc).

 

You can use the Dell peripherals on your new system, at least until you have some money to replace those.

 

As for parts for your new system, aim for a mid-range AMD proc, higher range X570 main board (so you have an upgrade path in the future) and a 650W PSU. Re-use the GPU and HDD, get a fairly cheap case that meets your needs.

 

HTH!

I'm pretty sure that is just a normal corsair PSU that isn't the stock one

[mopman94]

Just now, Kanna said:

I'm pretty sure that is just a normal corsair PSU that isn't the stock one

I think it's a bespoke one, this sounds like quite an old build. Regardless it's probably not that well rated and is rather old. PSUs don't cost much in the scheme of things so I'd replace it.

[boggy77]

sell your current pc as is for $200-$250 and buy this:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$174.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard	ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$85.99 @ B&H
Memory	G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$54.99 @ Newegg
Storage	TCSunBow X3 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$45.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card	$229.99 @ B&H
Case	Thermaltake Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case	$47.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	be quiet! Pure Power 11 500 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply	$69.90 @ B&H
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$709.84
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-12 06:29 EDT-0400

 

[Kanna]

1 minute ago, mopman94 said:

I think it's a bespoke one, this sounds like quite an old build. Regardless it's probably not that well rated and is rather old. PSUs don't cost much in the scheme of things so I'd replace it.

Me with a CX650M *bruh* I understand what you mean but if it isn't that old like he replaced it recently he probs can keep it

 

[Bleamy]

1 minute ago, mopman94 said:

I think it's a bespoke one, this sounds like quite an old build. Regardless it's probably not that well rated and is rather old. PSUs don't cost much in the scheme of things so I'd replace it.

I replaced the stock PSU and got my current CX 750m about 4 months ago 

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Bronze-Certified-Modular-Supply/dp/B00ALK3KEM here is its amazon link

[Bleamy]

3 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

sell your current pc as is for $200-$250 and buy this:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$174.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard	ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$85.99 @ B&H
Memory	G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$54.99 @ Newegg
Storage	TCSunBow X3 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$45.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card	$229.99 @ B&H
Case	Thermaltake Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case	$47.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	be quiet! Pure Power 11 500 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply	$69.90 @ B&H
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$709.84
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-12 06:29 EDT-0400

 

My PSU is only 4 months old could I still use that?

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Bronze-Certified-Modular-Supply/dp/B00ALK3KEM-(the amazon link)

[Kanna]

3 minutes ago, Bleamy said:

I replaced the stock PSU and got my current CX 750m about 4 months ago 

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Bronze-Certified-Modular-Supply/dp/B00ALK3KEM here is its amazon link

Then I'ts pretty smart to keep it in my opinion

[mopman94]

7 minutes ago, Kanna said:

Me with a CX650M *bruh* I understand what you mean but if it isn't that old like he replaced it recently he probs can keep it

 

Oh yeah I read through that part of the post pretty quick and missed it, thought he was still on the stock Dell PSU.

[Oswin]

if you cant really stretch the budget would go with this

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 3 3100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$99.99
Motherboard	ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$85.99 @ B&H
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$57.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Western Digital SN750 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$62.99 @ Newegg
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB GAMING Video Card	$239.99 @ Newegg
Case	Cougar MX330-G ATX Mid Tower Case	$51.98 @ B&H
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$598.93
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-12 06:41 EDT-0400

*buying an extra fan for intake is recommended

[boggy77]

10 minutes ago, Bleamy said:

My PSU is only 4 months old could I still use that?

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Bronze-Certified-Modular-Supply/dp/B00ALK3KEM-(the amazon link)

well yes, but then it would be difficult to sell the old pc as a whole without a psu.

[Young Cash Register]

Well you definitely need a new processor if you want to stream. I would recommend getting a ryzen 5 processor (amd is really good for h.264 encoding). Get a cheap motherboard and 16gb ram and just stick all that in your current computer keeping your power supply, case, and hard drive for the time being. Then as soon as you can buy a 1tb NVMe drive (make sure you get a motherboard with an M.2 slot on it) and put windows on it and that will be an enormous upgrade and you will be able to stream your games. 600w is enough for that upgrade. Then when you feel like it get a new case and probably a graphics card upgrade relatively soon.