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Budget PC (while waiting for amd-6000/nv-3000)

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Budget (including currency): NA

Country: Philippines (US prices + 20-30%)

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 

- 1080p/144hz Gaming at max setting (probably 1440p in late 2021). Mostly single player/story/RPG/RTS games

- Programming (minimal concern, even with my current setup still satisfy my needs here)

 

Current PC

- 4670k

- 970GTX

- 16GB

- 500GB SSD

 

I've prepared 2 "ITX"/RGB builds:

- AMD (1100 USD) = CPU upgrade (Ryzen 7 - 2021/2022)  (full cpu/mobo/ram upgrade - 2027)

- Intel (1300 USD) =  cpu/mobo/ram upgrade - 2025

+ 500-600 USD AMD/Nvidia GPU (Late 2020) 

 

I'll probably go toward the AMD build since the 200usd diff can be added toward a Ryzen 7 in 2021/22 that hopefully can beat or par with the current 2020 I9/Ryzen 9 lineup. (or even a newer budget ryzen 3 again, depending on how long they support the b550)

 

Question:

1. Are my thinking points above reasonable?

2. I really like the H210/i and X53, but also plan to use QL120s to replace all fans. Should I just get the cheaper H210 (non-i) then buy those 3-pack QLs with controller? I was just reading that each manufacturer have its own RGB software, so I really want to avoid using multiple sw.

3. Should I go for 3600/4000mhz memory, if I want to keep the memory for the next 5yrs?

 

NOTE: This PC is planned to have RGB, AIO, and ITX, as I've never tried these. :) 

 

AMD BUILD

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3300X 3.8 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($119.99 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X53 73.11 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($129.99 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: (WILL REPLACE THIS WITH A SIMILARLY PRICED B550) MSI B450I GAMING PLUS AC Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  ($245.76 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($144.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: NZXT H210i Mini ITX Tower Case  ($146.88 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair SF 600 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply  ($149.99 @ Best Buy) 
Total: $1077.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-29 05:09 EDT-0400

 

 

INTEL BUILD

 

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10600K 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($299.99 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X53 73.11 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($129.99 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z490I AORUS ULTRA Mini ITX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($259.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: NZXT H210i Mini ITX Tower Case  ($146.88 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair SF 600 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply  ($149.99 @ Best Buy) 
Total: $1276.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-29 05:10 EDT-0400

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
Just now, boggy77 said:

i'd go with the amd build. and i'd delay the aio purchase until you upgrade the cpu next year. you don't need a x53 to cool the 3300x.

 

Thanks for pointing this out. Been also fighting with this idea. Kept the AIO for now due to the following

1. RGB/Looks (the primary reason)

2. AIO should not really go up/down in price

3. not expecting any new game changing AIO in the next 1-2yrs.

 

But it really makes sense to postpone the AIO for 3300x and just add the extra AIO money to the GPU.

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Just now, Kyv said:

Thanks for pointing this out. Been also fighting with this idea. Kept the AIO for now due to the following

1. RGB/Looks (the primary reason)

2. AIO should not really go up/down in price

3. not expecting any new game changing AIO in the next 1-2yrs.

 

But it really makes sense to postpone the AIO for 3300x and just add the extra AIO money to the GPU.

also, if not going for looks, but for price/performance, the arctic freezer II 280mm aio is one of the best performing aios

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Important to note that there is a good chance that AMD will be changing its socket after Ryzen 4000(Zen 3), as they will likely want to go for DDR5 with Ryzen 5000(Zen 4). At best you should consider that Ryzen 5000 might be on AM4, but it isn't confirmed and probably isn't that likely(based on AMD own statement about support of AM4 until 2020).

If possible I would say to wait until AMD at least say something about the future of AM4 and probably just buy the entire system together with the GPU. If it isn't possible to wait, just be aware that likely you won't be getting anything newer than Ryzen 4000 without changing the mobo.

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Posted · Original PosterOP
11 minutes ago, KaitouX said:

Important to note that there is a good chance that AMD will be changing its socket after Ryzen 4000(Zen 3), as they will likely want to go for DDR5 with Ryzen 5000(Zen 4). At best you should consider that Ryzen 5000 might be on AM4, but it isn't confirmed and probably isn't that likely(based on AMD own statement about support of AM4 until 2020).

If possible I would say to wait until AMD at least say something about the future of AM4 and probably just buy the entire system together with the GPU. If it isn't possible to wait, just be aware that likely you won't be getting anything newer than Ryzen 4000 without changing the mobo.

Ohh. I was under the assumption that I can use the B550 till 5000. Got it, was planning to build the AMD by June/July (no b550 yet here), I'll watch for any commotion in r/amd in the coming weeks. 

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