Poor Dad Build

[BigDaddy23]

Hi, I had been follow the Linus' Youtube channel for quite sometimes, just myself as a Youtube subscriber which doesn't post or comment  or received any notification and just enjoy the content the time I like or wanted. Lol...

 

It goes like this, I never had a gaming rig and my Lenovo Y410P just died out on me few days ago when I tried to setup it for streaming my mobile gaming session. It had been follow me for more than 7 years. I just play some Overwatch, Diablo 3, CS:GO and DOTA2 and draw some AutoCAD. I had to use external fan to keep it cool though or else the laptop could fry an egg on it during gaming.

 

I had always wanted to build a rig which capable of gaming 1080p, just life is always given you the priority change every single time you wanted to execute your plan wasn't it?

And computer parts in Asia is always on a high side pricing compared to EU or NA or AUS.

 

Marriage take up my savings which I plan for a rig.

After 2 years and my wife get pregnant and goes again my savings, and in return I get a baby boy. (Level up Mario music~)

Last year he was diagnosed with Autism Spectrum which have to go speech therapy and occupational therapy weekly.

 

So after you have kids, everything changed.

 

My budget gaming and streaming rig as below:

Currencies: RM=Ringgit Malaysia, conversion to USD is RM4.40)

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600

MoBo: AsRock B450M Pro4 (MoBo + CPU: RM 815 = USD 186)

GPU: GIGABYTE GEFORCE GTX 1660 SUPER OC 6G ( RM 1069 = USD 243)

RAM: ADATA XPG 2x8GB 3200mhz (RM 388 = USD 88) Out of stock and I had changed to Avexir Core2 16GB kit 2x8GB.

SSD: Salvage from my laptop, Transcend 120GB SATA 2.5"

HDD: Salvage from my laptop, Samsung Momentus 5400rpm 1TB

Monitor: ACER KG241QA 23.6" (RM 525 = USD 120)

Case + CM MWE 500w + RGB Fan + Artic MX4 ( RM 398 = USD 91)

 

For storage, I already plan to upgrade by next quarter to an NVME SSD and a 7200rpm HDD. Purpose of this build is I planned to stream and game in the same time using single PC.

 

Thanks for review and feedback, cheers.

 

Minor update on the PSU and RAM.

Attached the build photo without the RAM. Expected to reach on Friday.

Edited April 9, 2020 by BigDaddy23
Updates on the build.

[WereCatf]

3 minutes ago, BigDaddy23 said:

My budget gaming and streaming rig as below

Your planned build looks solid enough. Just make sure you get the Ryzen 5 2600AF, not the non-AF -- the AF-part is literally a slightly lower-clocked R5 3600.

[Srijan Verma]

If the budget is that tight then go for it but  if you could then save some more since there is no guarantee that the stream quality will be the best with that hardware

[BigDaddy23]

3 minutes ago, WereCatf said:

Your planned build looks solid enough. Just make sure you get the Ryzen 5 2600AF, not the non-AF -- the AF-part is literally a slightly lower-clocked R5 3600.

I tried to search the Ryzen 5 2600AF but I can't find it on online store that available in my country. My first intention is go with the R5 1600 AF which proposed by Kyle from Bitwit. Lol...

 

I am very curious at this point. Is the AF model only available in NA?

[WereCatf]

4 minutes ago, Srijan Verma said:

If the budget is that tight then go for it but  if you could then save some more since there is no guarantee that the stream quality will be the best with that hardware

There will be nothing wrong with the stream-quality, since the OP can just use NVENC to do the encoding.

[WereCatf]

2 minutes ago, BigDaddy23 said:

I tried to search the Ryzen 5 2600AF but I can't find it on online store that available in my country. My first intention is go with the R5 1600 AF which proposed by Kyle from Bitwit. Lol...

Yeah, sorry, I actually meant 1600AF!

2 minutes ago, BigDaddy23 said:

I am very curious at this point. Is the AF model only available in NA?

It should be available everywhere.

[19_blackie_73]

What's that undisclosed 600W PSU?

[BigDaddy23]

6 minutes ago, WereCatf said:

Yeah, sorry, I actually meant 1600AF!

It should be available everywhere.

Well, I am very bad luck on this as I can't find any online store or local store that available with the 1600AF CPU.

[BigDaddy23]

8 minutes ago, 19_blackie_73 said:

What's that undisclosed 600W PSU?

1st Player DK PS-600AX DK6.0 Full Modular Power Supply (600W, 80 Plus Bronze, 3 Years Warranty), after conversion roughly around USD 45.

[WereCatf]

3 minutes ago, BigDaddy23 said:

Well, I am very bad luck on this as I can't find any online store or local store that available with the 1600AF CPU.

Well, then you'll just have to get a 2600, I suppose.

[19_blackie_73]

3 minutes ago, BigDaddy23 said:

1st Player DK PS-600AX DK6.0 Full Modular Power Supply (600W, 80 Plus Bronze, 3 Years Warranty), after conversion roughly around USD 45.

I'm in doubt about that, one old thread stated it isn't too bad but... I'd rather go with a name brand like a corsair cxm 450w which is plenty

Otherwise you have a good build

[BigDaddy23]

1 minute ago, 19_blackie_73 said:

I'm in doubt about that, one old thread stated it isn't too bad but... I'd rather go with a name brand like a corsair cxm 450w which is plenty

But I saw many site suggest me go for 470w minimum for the 1660 Super. Any reliable web site that can help calculate how much power needed for a CPU + GPU?

[WereCatf]

Just now, BigDaddy23 said:

But I saw many site suggest me go for 470w minimum for the 1660 Super. Any reliable web site that can help calculate how much power needed for a CPU + GPU?

Those wattage-quotes are typically a little exaggerated just to make sure people don't buy underrated PSUs. 450W will do just fine.

[Herman Mcpootis]

3 minutes ago, BigDaddy23 said:

But I saw many site suggest me go for 470w minimum for the 1660 Super. Any reliable web site that can help calculate how much power needed for a CPU + GPU?

you can look for total system power consumption graphs on GPU reviews for a rough gauge, normally you'll run lower than that since reviewers usually use HEDT CPUs or a 9900k, then also possibly overclock it too.

[19_blackie_73]

18 minutes ago, BigDaddy23 said:

But I saw many site suggest me go for 470w minimum for the 1660 Super. Any reliable web site that can help calculate how much power needed for a CPU + GPU?

I can tell you that my system with 4 drives, 4 fans, a 2060s and a 3600 only uses 250W under full load so your more than fine

[BigDaddy23]

On 4/3/2020 at 2:08 PM, WereCatf said:

Those wattage-quotes are typically a little exaggerated just to make sure people don't buy underrated PSUs. 450W will do just fine.

 

On 4/3/2020 at 2:11 PM, Herman Mcpootis said:

you can look for total system power consumption graphs on GPU reviews for a rough gauge, normally you'll run lower than that since reviewers usually use HEDT CPUs or a 9900k, then also possibly overclock it too.

 

On 4/3/2020 at 2:25 PM, 19_blackie_73 said:

I can tell you that my system with 4 drives, 4 fans, a 2060s and a 3600 only uses 250W under full load so your more than fine

Alright, weekend stuck up with my kid and away from keyboard usually. The vendor replied me that the cheap 600w PSU and the mATX case that I choose for has out of stock, I ended up with Cooler Master MWE 80+ 500W with RM 185(USD 43). Hopefully all my parts will arrive by this Wednesday which currently the MCO had exhausted the shipping companies. My next question is, should I minor overclock it(CPU + GPU)? I had no experience on it at all, building PC I have no problem.

[19_blackie_73]

57 minutes ago, BigDaddy23 said:

 

 

Alright, weekend stuck up with my kid and away from keyboard usually. The vendor replied me that the cheap 600w PSU and the mATX case that I choose for has out of stock, I ended up with Cooler Master MWE 80+ 500W with RM 185(USD 43). Hopefully all my parts will arrive by this Wednesday which currently the MCO had exhausted the shipping companies. My next question is, should I minor overclock it(CPU + GPU)? I had no experience on it at all, building PC I have no problem.

You can but tbh I run my system stock. gPU Boost takes care of most of the oc and for cpu, i was too lazy to tinker extended periods of time

[WereCatf]

1 hour ago, BigDaddy23 said:

 My next question is, should I minor overclock it(CPU + GPU)?

Eh, just focus on setting everything up and playing around with it first. You can always overclock it at a later time, if you wish.

[trevb0t]

On 4/2/2020 at 11:58 PM, BigDaddy23 said:

Well, I am very bad luck on this as I can't find any online store or local store that available with the 1600AF CPU.

The AF just refers to the actual product number. It's just called a Ryzen 5 1600, but it is a 12nm version. 

On 4/2/2020 at 11:40 PM, WereCatf said:

Your planned build looks solid enough. Just make sure you get the Ryzen 5 2600AF, not the non-AF -- the AF-part is literally a slightly lower-clocked R5 3600.

And to clarify that... It's a 1600AF, which is basically a 2600, not a 3600. That's because it's a 2600 with some reused memory controllers from 1600s. Neither is really close to a 3600 in power lol.

 

That aside, @BigDaddy23 your part choices are well researched, and on that 1080p monitor, they will do well  

I'm a touch concerned with a case/PSU combo. Generally you don't want those PSU units... I've seen the phillipines market, and I know both Corsair and BeQuiet! units are available out there at a decent price. I'd grab a CX 550 or a System Power 9 500W

[BigDaddy23]

On 4/6/2020 at 3:20 PM, trevb0t said:

The AF just refers to the actual product number. It's just called a Ryzen 5 1600, but it is a 12nm version. 

And to clarify that... It's a 1600AF, which is basically a 2600, not a 3600. That's because it's a 2600 with some reused memory controllers from 1600s. Neither is really close to a 3600 in power lol.

 

That aside, @BigDaddy23 your part choices are well researched, and on that 1080p monitor, they will do well  

I'm a touch concerned with a case/PSU combo. Generally you don't want those PSU units... I've seen the phillipines market, and I know both Corsair and BeQuiet! units are available out there at a decent price. I'd grab a CX 550 or a System Power 9 500W

Thanks man, when you have a very tight budget and not to sacrifice the diapers and milk powder money for up coming months. Lol, that's what I need to dig in and dive in the research before I buy what I can afford.

[trevb0t]

2 hours ago, BigDaddy23 said:

Thanks man, when you have a very tight budget and not to sacrifice the diapers and milk powder money for up coming months. Lol, that's what I need to dig in and dive in the research before I buy what I can afford.

I hear ya! I'm my household's sole earner, a homeowner, and a dad of 3. I'm a bargain hunter for sure