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Posted · Original PosterOP

Is a i3-9100f enough for 144Hz 1080p gaming? Coupled with a GTX 1060 6gb and 16GB 3000Mhz ddr4 ram.

Building a PC for my brother and he actually doesn't play any demanding games (most demanding game he ever played is probably Final Fantasy XIII-2 or Life is Strange 1&2 in his case). He does Photo editing but mainly plays stuff like OSU!, Garrys Mod, Minecraft and other "fun" games. Though from time to time he plays league (which is primarily the reason for a144Hz monitor).

I know the Ryzen 5 3600 is about 50% more expensive, but I have actually reached the limit of my budged. Maybe i could scrap 30 Bucks more but srsly thats it.

Btw. my budget is 600€ and the screen is 200€ (It's the AOC IPS 24inch one) hence only 400€ left.
Current config is.
78.90€ - i39100f
86.90€ ASRock B365M Pro4 (Mainboard)
64.90€ Corsair DIMM 16 GB DDR4-3000 Kit (CMK16GX4M2D3000C16, Vengeance LPX)
34.99€ Aerocool Bolt Case (ATX)
84.90€ Corsair TX650M PSU
77.90€ Samsung 970 EVO 500 GB (That's with the 30 Bucks included, alternatively I will get a 256GB one if I can't afford it)

The GTX 1060 6GB is in my current system, but because I use a i5-4440 and don't plan on upgrading this rig I will gift it to him and take his GTX750TI.


https://www.alternate.de/PC-Konfigurator
(That's the site where I will probably buy and build my PC, if not the only alternative is amazon.de)

P.S.: Overseas parts are not worth it because of huge shipping cost and i would need to pay 19% more for tax (the tax actually add 19% on shipping cost too, i know hilarious).

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7 minutes ago, Beoleo said:

84.90€ Corsair TX650M PSU
77.90€ Samsung 970 EVO 500 GB (That's with the 30 Bucks included, alternatively I will get a 256GB one if I can't afford it)

Just spend less here, I see no reason to get more than a 450w unit when it costs extra nor the Samsung premium, heck even NVMe can be ditched. Good SATA SSDs are plenty, say the Crucial MX500, Adata SU800 and SK Hynix S31 Gold.

 

7 minutes ago, Beoleo said:

78.90€ - i39100f
86.90€ ASRock B365M Pro4 (Mainboard)

144Hz in league is easy, even 2nd gen Ryzen can do it. I wont buy into a soon-dead platform though, nor would a CPU that's basically a higher clocked and locked 6th/7th gen i5


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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A 1600 AF or 2600 would be a much better investment.


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3 hours ago, boggy77 said:

Why a crucial p1, when xpg sx8200 pro is available for €5 cheaper.

 

Also why a cx450 unit when formula gold 550w is available for €1 more.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€121.80 @ Alza) 
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€73.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€73.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€73.95 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 30 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€33.49 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: BitFenix Formula Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (€69.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €446.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-20 04:43 CET+0100


SSD TIER LIST

 

PRIMARY PC

Ryzen 7 3700X - ASRock X470 Taichi - G.Skill Trident Z RGB (8x2 3200MHz) - Sabrent Rocket 1TB - Seagate Barracuda 2TB - MSI GeForce GTX980Ti LIGHTNING - Fractal Design Meshify C - Super Flower Leadex ll Gold 650 Watt

 

SECONDARY PC

Xeon X5680 - Asus SABERTOOTH X58 - Crucial (4x2 1333MHz) - Crucial MX500 500GB - Sapphire RX580 Pulse - Cougar MX330 - EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650 Watt

 

LAPTOP

Acer Nitro 5 - 7300HQ - 16GB DDR4 2133MHz - GTX 1050Ti - Intel 600p Series 256GB - Samsung 860 Evo 1TB

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP

WoW, thx alot guys, actually never knew that you can select german shops in Partpicker (Still don't know how), but the help is really appreciated.
For now VEXICUS's List has pretty much everything in the system I searched for hence I will build something around that (Will look for another cheap case though xD).

 

Edit (Listed without Partpicker)

CPU: AMD-Ryzen-5-2600-6x-3-40GHz-So-AM4-BOX (119,80€)

Motherboard: ASRock-B450M-Pro4-F (has USB-C and transistor cooling) (69,90€)

or MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€73.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) (Free Delivery) Depending on which one is better.

Memory: 2x-8192MB--G-Skill-Aegis-DDR4-3000-DIMM-CL16-18-18-38-Dual-Kit (59,90€)

Storage: Silicon Power P34A80 512GB, M.2 (SP512GBP34A80M28) (70,99€) (Free Delivery)

Case: Aerocool Bolt (34,99€+6.99€=41,98€)

Power Supply: Gigabyte G750H 750W ATX 2.31 (GP-G750H) (57,90€+5,95€=63,85€)

 

Mindfactory Delivery 8,99€ (worst case times 3, don't know how they calc the delivery cost)

 

Total: 435,41€ - 453,39€ (Worst Case with ASrock-Board)

or 439,41€ - 448,40€ (Worst Case with MSI-Board)
 

Realized its over my budget. Will need to play around some more.
Why wouldn't you recommend the i3-9100f?
He has no need to overclocking. The extra Cores won't do much in his use case and we don't plan on upgrading till 7 years down the road. Meaning he could theoretically get a used 9900KS then (if they become cheap) or some other multi threaded i7 processor...

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1 minute ago, Beoleo said:

WoW, thx alot guys, actually never knew that you can select german shops in Partpicker (Still don't know how), but the help is really appreciated.
For now VEXICUS's List has pretty much everything in the system I searched for hence I will build something around that (Will look for another cheap case though xD).

De.pcpartpicker.com

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Posted · Original PosterOP

CPU: AMD-Ryzen-5-2600-6x-3-40GHz-So-AM4-BOX (119,80€)

Motherboard: ASRock-B450M-Pro4-F (has USB-C and transistor cooling) (69,90€)

or MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€73.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) (Free Delivery) Depending on which one is better.

Memory: 2x-8192MB--G-Skill-Aegis-DDR4-3000-DIMM-CL16-18-18-38-Dual-Kit (59,90€)

Storage: Silicon Power P34A80 512GB, M.2 (SP512GBP34A80M28) (70,99€) (Free Delivery)

Case: Aerocool Bolt (34,99€+6.99€=41,98€)

Power Supply: Gigabyte G750H 750W ATX 2.31 (GP-G750H) (57,90€+5,95€=63,85€)

 

Mindfactory Delivery 8,99€ (worst case times 3, don't know how they calc the delivery cost)

 

Total: 435,41€ - 453,39€ (Worst Case with ASrock-Board)

or 439,41€ - 448,40€ (Worst Case with MSI-Board)

 

Realized its over my budget. Will need to play around some more.
Why wouldn't you recommend the i3-9100f?
He has no need to overclocking. The extra Cores won't do much in his use case and we don't plan on upgrading till 7 years down the road. Meaning he could theoretically get a used 9900KS then (if they become cheap) or some other multi threaded i7 processor...

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19 minutes ago, Beoleo said:

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Haven't you been noticing the trend? Intel products usually have high resale value.

While on the other hand in that AMD build, you can literally put in a 3900x.

And right now AMD offers the best bang for your buck.

 

Also, for the power supply, get anything above tier B from the list below.

 

Get the MSI motherboard, it's slightly better.

 

Get anything tier C+...

 

Here is a sub €400 build that I have put together for you...

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€121.80 @ Alza) 
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€73.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€73.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: TCSunBow X3 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€29.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: Cougar MG120 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€29.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: BitFenix Formula Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (€69.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €399.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-20 13:29 CET+0100


SSD TIER LIST

 

PRIMARY PC

Ryzen 7 3700X - ASRock X470 Taichi - G.Skill Trident Z RGB (8x2 3200MHz) - Sabrent Rocket 1TB - Seagate Barracuda 2TB - MSI GeForce GTX980Ti LIGHTNING - Fractal Design Meshify C - Super Flower Leadex ll Gold 650 Watt

 

SECONDARY PC

Xeon X5680 - Asus SABERTOOTH X58 - Crucial (4x2 1333MHz) - Crucial MX500 500GB - Sapphire RX580 Pulse - Cougar MX330 - EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650 Watt

 

LAPTOP

Acer Nitro 5 - 7300HQ - 16GB DDR4 2133MHz - GTX 1050Ti - Intel 600p Series 256GB - Samsung 860 Evo 1TB

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
7 hours ago, VEXICUS said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€121.80 @ Alza) 
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€73.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€73.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: TCSunBow X3 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€29.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: Cougar MG120 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€29.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: BitFenix Formula Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (€69.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €399.39

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-20 13:29 CET+0100

Sry but PCPartPicker tricked you and me as well (good i didn't use it instantly)

Case: €29.90 + EUR 18.00 Shipping
PSU: €69.90 + EUR 5.99 Shipping
Hence another 24€ on shipping and over the budget. Don't have prime btw..
Also I don't trust Alza (as I saw pretty bad reviews of them).


Because I saw that you saved money on the case and storage I will try the same.
But is the Gigabyte G750H 750W ATX 2.31 (GP-G750H) a bad PSU? Cause its cheaper but delivers more Watts, not that I have any clue about building PC's, it,s going to be the first completely self-build one.
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€119,80 @ Mindfactory)  2€ saved
Motherboard: ASRock-B450M-Pro4-F (has USB-C and transistor cooling. 2x M.2) (€69,90 @ Mindfactory) 4€ saved
Memory: G-Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€69,80 @ Mindfactory) 4€ saved
Storage: PNY XLR8 250GB CS3030 M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe 1.3 3D-NAND TLC  (€44,15 @ Mindfactory) 14,16€ more expensive
Case: None (Screwed in the Motherboardbox or if it fits in the 12 year old midi Tower) or I buy your storage suggestion and try to find a case for 31€ total.
Power Supply: BitFenix Formula Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (€69.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Mindfactory Delivery (8,99€ lost)
Total: €382,54

 

Heck don't know what to do. Wanted to surprise him for his BDay, But I might have to let him wait till my next paycheck. Though I still wouldn't spend more then 500€ total (don't earn that much xD).


If I do wait for next paycheck I would change the following

CPU: Ryzen-5-2600X 128,90€ +9,10€ (To get a RGB Cooler [Wraith Spire])

RAM:Corsair-Vengeance-RGB-PRO 16GB 3200MHz 83,90€ +14,10€ for RGB

Motherboard: ASRock-B450M-Steel-Legend 88,75€ +18,85€ for RGB

Case: Aerocool Bolt (34,99€+6.99€=41,98€) +41,98€ for the RGB Case

Storage: Silicon Power P34A80 512GB, M.2 (SP512GBP34A80M28) (70,99€) (Free Delivery) +26,84€ for more storage

Total: €493,41

 

Guess what leaves the question. 1st would it be better to surprise him with his old broken PC (though Internally everything is changed) or

Should I tell him he needs to wait my next paycheck so I can buy him the RGB Gamer SWAG stuff xD

 

Btw. Screen is AOC Gaming 27G2U for 199€ @ Amazon Ger

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